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    Why fire any when they do whatever you tell them no matter how illegal or corrupt
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    Note that it was only after Clinton left the State Department, that the National Archives issued a recommendation that government employees should avoid conducting official business on personal emails (though they noted there might be extenuating circumstances such as an emergency that require it). Additionally, in 2014, President Barack Obama signed changes to the Federal Records Act that explicitly said federal officials can only use personal email addresses if they also copy or send the emails to their official account.
    Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, "she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time," said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.

    So if Clinton did something illegal why hasn’t Sessions locked her up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Ha ha, then perhaps Trumps Admistration should be charged for having classified information turned over to people with temporary clearances like Kushner and Porter.

    With respect to your charge of criminality and corruption ain’t nothing stopping a Sessions from reopening the Benghazi investigation again and charging Clinton except maybe No Crime was actually committed. Lol

    Why am I still answering you? Get back to
    TEMPORARY CLEARANCES means it was done legally.

    God damn... Have you ever typed out how you think trump became president over a single page?

    I dare you to do that for yourself. Then read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
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    In Clinton’s defense, we should note that it was only after Clinton left the State Department, that the National Archives issued a recommendation that government employees should avoid conducting official business on personal emails (though they noted there might be extenuating circumstances such as an emergency that require it). Additionally, in 2014, President Barack Obama signed changes to the Federal Records Act that explicitly said federal officials can only use personal email addresses if they also copy or send the emails to their official account.
    Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, "she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time," said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.
    "Unless she violated a rule dealing with the handling of classified or sensitive but unclassified information, I don’t see how she violated any law or regulation," said Bass, who is now executive director of the Bauman Foundation. "There may be a stronger argument about violating the spirit of the law, but that is a very vague area."
    It has been a rule for years that they must use government secure equipment so there is a record of it. Hillary did not want what she was doing on the record
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Oh I was just waiting for someone to post this - because it's too good a story for the people who believe in conspiracy theories to pass up




    Sens. Grassley and Graham say this email sent by SUSAN RICE on Trump's inauguration day is "unusual" and warrants further investigation. It looks like she was saving her notes of a meeting between Obama and Comey earlier in January 2017 about the FBI's Russia investigation.



    https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/st...47465942855680

    It's no secret that the Obama administration knew all about the Russian investigation and were particularly concerned about Flynn's phone calls to the Russian right after the election. In fact, the two things Obama warned him on was N. Korea and Flynn. Yet he choose to keep Flynn on as his NSA director (and we all know how that turned out)

    Tthey were concerned that the incoming admin was potentially compromised by the Russians and that they were trying to figure out how to ensure that the IC followed its normal protocols while still protecting national security.
    It's no secret that Obama is a corrupt piece of excrement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
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    In Clinton’s defense, we should note that it was only after Clinton left the State Department, that the National Archives issued a recommendation that government employees should avoid conducting official business on personal emails (though they noted there might be extenuating circumstances such as an emergency that require it). Additionally, in 2014, President Barack Obama signed changes to the Federal Records Act that explicitly said federal officials can only use personal email addresses if they also copy or send the emails to their official account.
    Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, "she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time," said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.
    "Unless she violated a rule dealing with the handling of classified or sensitive but unclassified information, I don’t see how she violated any law or regulation," said Bass, who is now executive director of the Bauman Foundation. "There may be a stronger argument about violating the spirit of the law, but that is a very vague area."
    We know...my lord we know. The Clinton's and Obama are above the law...just ask 'em.
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    Could the Mods or Council please change the name of this thread to "Obama & Hillary still live rent free in my head"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It has been a rule for years that they must use government secure equipment so there is a record of it. Hillary did not want what she was doing on the record
    So charge Clinton already? Trump is President, Sessions is AG, the Senate and House are controlled by the GOP? What’s the problem? Ain’t nothing stopping them if true? Oh, I know, because there is no crime !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    So charge Clinton already? Trump is President, Sessions is AG, the Senate and House are controlled by the GOP? What’s the problem? Ain’t nothing stopping them if true? Oh I know because there is no crime !!!!
    The Clintons are gangsters... The only more gangster I can think of is Cheney, who shot a guy and had the victim apologize.

    So, you have to be careful when taking down a crime lord, make sure to deal with any dead man switches or traps.

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    Kushner currently works under an interim security clearance, which is a temporary fix that allows him to work with sensitive materials on issues like brokering peace in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, criminal justice reform and the opioid crisis in the U.S. Even while investigators look into Kushner’s involvement with his family’s real estate developments, he continues to be allowed access to classified information that requires clearance, something that some experts say is concerning. His stake in a New York City building development is enough of an issue to possibly warrant suspension of his interim clearance.

    "If Jared Kushner was working for any other department in the U.S. government and these issues arose…about falsifying a clearance or omitting information…his access would be first suspended. And then if there’s no other position he could hold, he’d be out of work without pay. He’d be off the job," Joseph Kaplan, founding principal attorney at Passman & Kaplan, P.C., told Newsweek last month. "If he was anybody else, his security clearance would have already been denied."

    Legal experts specializing in security clearance law told Newsweek that Kushner’s clearance should be suspended until investigators can determine whether his failures to include dozens of Russian contacts on his forms constitutes an intentional false statement—a chargeable offense.

    “People need to be asking: Would the president accept this from anyone else?” said Libowitz. “If not, then why does he accept it from Jared?”


    http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushne...e-house-783965

    APPARENTLY YES, PORTER WAS ALLOWED TO DO IT AS WELL. TWO MEN THAT ARE IN COMPROMISING SITUATIONS OPEN TO BEING BLACKMAILED BUT MEH ITS OK WITH TRUMP. THIS TRUMP GUY IS DEFINATELY A TRAITOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    TEMPORARY CLEARANCES means it was done legally.

    God damn... Have you ever typed out how you think trump became president over a single page?

    I dare you to do that for yourself. Then read it.
    The White House quietly imposed a ban on new interim security clearances for anyone in the executive office of the president last fall, but it let existing employees with interim clearances stay on, according to an email obtained by POLITICO.The Nov. 7 internal email to senior leaders at the Office of Management and Budget said the White House personnel security office had advised that it would no longer grant interim security clearances. Pending requests for interim clearances were expected to be denied, though exceptions could be requested, according to the email.

    But the email nonetheless indicates that officials in the personnel security office — and perhaps others in the White House — were aware as far back as last year of the potential pitfalls of overreliance on interim security clearances, which allow staffers to handle classified material while their full clearance applications are under review.

    Senior White House officials, including chief of staff John Kelly, have struggled to explain why they allowed Porter to stay in his role, which involved access to highly sensitive secrets, despite the existence of a protective order granted to one of his ex-wives.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...e-house-407910

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