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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    My head is not buried in the sand. What in my statement isn't 100% True. a Poltical appointee from the Obama administration resigns because ICE is enforcing the laws that were passed by Congress, signed by Clinton,

    Left wingers have their heads buried up their butts. Strange the ICE agents are praising the Trump administration.
    1) He's not a political appointee, agency spokespeople are career staff

    2) He didn't resign over laws being enforced, he resigned over being told to describe people as hardened criminals when they are not, they're just illegal immigrants

    3) No ICE agents praise the Trump administration, the ICE union doesn't speak for ICE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    That's right, just keep burying your heads in the sand, there's no problems, no chaos. Trump is making America great again, these are just pissy Obama people!
    Truth hurts huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    1) He's not a political appointee, agency spokespeople are career staff

    2) He didn't resign over laws being enforced, he resigned over being told to describe people as hardened criminals when they are not, they're just illegal immigrants

    3) No ICE agents praise the Trump administration, the ICE union doesn't speak for ICE

    No they are hired for their job to speak for the Rank and file and the director of ICE.

    He resigned because he OPPOSED Trump's enforcing the law (Of which he is required to do) as a POLITICAL STATEMENT.

    So if he is carrier staffer.. why was this staffer resigning because he did not want to honor the oath he took, "to uphold and defend the constitution of the US"

    Remember unholding and defending the US Constitution would be enforcing the LAWS passed by the HOuse, Senate signed by the POTUS as in accordance to the US Constitution.

    Remember Trump is only enforcing laws signed by President Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    1) He's not a political appointee, agency spokespeople are career staff

    2) He didn't resign over laws being enforced, he resigned over being told to describe people as hardened criminals when they are not, they're just illegal immigrants

    3) No ICE agents praise the Trump administration, the ICE union doesn't speak for ICE
    Do you hear yourself? "They're just illegal immigrants"
    What do you call someone who breaks the law? A CRIMINAL.
    There is no 'just' about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Do you hear yourself? "They're just illegal immigrants"
    What do you call someone who breaks the law? A CRIMINAL.
    There is no 'just' about it.
    No, actually, being unlawfully present in the U.S. is a civil offense. You can be deported, but not jailed, except if you're deemed a flight risk pending deportation.

    To be an immigration criminal, the government must prove you consciously crossed the border without authorization. Innocent til proven guilty, and all.\

    Even then, it's a misdemeanor offense, hardly making you a "hardened criminal."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No they are hired for their job to speak for the Rank and file and the director of ICE.

    He resigned because he OPPOSED Trump's enforcing the law (Of which he is required to do) as a POLITICAL STATEMENT.

    So if he is carrier staffer.. why was this staffer resigning because he did not want to honor the oath he took, "to uphold and defend the constitution of the US"

    Remember unholding and defending the US Constitution would be enforcing the LAWS passed by the HOuse, Senate signed by the POTUS as in accordance to the US Constitution.

    Remember Trump is only enforcing laws signed by President Clinton.
    There's no indication that he opposed deporting people. He worked for ICE, and has worked for it for the last year, so that would be pretty weird.

    He's resigning because he was told to lie.
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    Here I thought aiding and abetting 1 criminal was a crime?

    But I guess if you aid hundreds of criminals it's trumps fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No they are hired for their job to speak for the Rank and file and the director of ICE.

    He resigned because he OPPOSED Trump's enforcing the law (Of which he is required to do) as a POLITICAL STATEMENT.

    So if he is carrier staffer.. why was this staffer resigning because he did not want to honor the oath he took, "to uphold and defend the constitution of the US"

    Remember unholding and defending the US Constitution would be enforcing the LAWS passed by the HOuse, Senate signed by the POTUS as in accordance to the US Constitution.

    Remember Trump is only enforcing laws signed by President Clinton.
    This is a blatant lie on your part. He resigned because he was told to outright lie for Trump and he refused. Why are you being so willingly obtuse, just accept the truth, for once.

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    ICE Official Quits Over Bogus Numbers

    The San Francisco spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement resigned after the agency’s recent Northern California sweep, saying he couldn’t continue to do his job after Trump administration officials made false public statements about a key aspect of the operation. Schwab wanted the agency to correct the number, which he understood to be far lower, and didn’t want to deflect media questions about it, he said.

    “I quit because I didn’t want to perpetuate misleading facts,” said Schwab, 38, who was hired in 2015 and resigned last week. “I asked them to change the information. I told them that the information was wrong, they asked me to deflect, and I didn’t agree with that. Then I took some time and I quit.”

    Schwab said the statements about immigrants evading arrest, which were widely quoted in an array of media outlets, were misleading “because we were not ever going to be able to capture 100 percent of the target list” of roughly 1,000 undocumented immigrants in Northern California.

    “I didn’t feel like fabricating the truth to defend ourselves against (Schaaf’s) actions was the way to go about it,” he said. “We were never going to pick up that many people. To say that 100 percent are dangerous criminals on the street, or that those people weren’t picked up because of the misguided actions of the mayor, is just wrong.”

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...s-12748022.php

    Shocker!! Sessions and Trump lying...again...

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