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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Trump Bombs the Russians for Violating the red line. Trump is honoring the Treaty with Poland, and Ukraine supplying missiles and weapons to defend themselves against Russian aggression. He is opposing Russia on NOKO nuclearization.

    Obama, backs down to Putin on Election interference (because they were working with Hillary), Backs down to the Russians on Syria, NOKO, Poland, Ukraine, Crimea, ... ....

    My rhetorical question is who was the puppet of Putin?

    The one that backed down every time Putin said Back down. Obama

    Or the one that stands up militarily and politically over and over. Trump

    It isn't but Obama it is TRUMP IS standing strong against putin

    As I said Putin said shit, Obama squatted every time.
    You are delusional. Syria used chemical weapons and Trump Bombs them. Russia uses a nerve agent in the country of one of the USA ‘s strongest allies and Trump fires the only guy in his administration that condemns Russia for doing it. I’m still waiting for Trump to impose the sanctions he was suppose to impose almost 1 year ago against Russia. What is Trump waiting for and why has he done ZIPPO?

    U.S. Response to Russia Election Meddling:
    Obama Aministration-
    1. Obama personally warned Putin against interfering
    2. Imposed sanctions on Russian individuals and entitites
    3. Expelled 35 Russian diplomats
    4. Closed two Russian compounds in the U.S.
    Trump Administration-
    1. Refuses to condemn interference
    2. Has not imposed Russian sanctions overwhelmingly approved by Congress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    It has everything to do with it. Tillerson condemned Russia, the White House consciously chose not to.

    It can't be more blatant at this point: THERE'S A REASON TRUMP DOESN'T WANT TO PISS PUTIN OFF.

    He goes out of his way, again and again, to placate and reduce Russia finger-pointing, and this is a man who doesn't hesitate to anger anybody.

    We need to find out what it is.
    You have to wonder what the Russians have on Trump that we already don't know about in order to get this sort of blind obedience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Assumes Pompeo gets confirmed — not a safe assumption.

    McConnell will certainly try to keep questions about why Tillerson was fired from being the dominant issue, but he will fail.

    Jeff Flake and Bob Corker both had a cordial relationship with Tillerson, and they're going to want answers.

    So, you are saying that Democrats play politics with US National Security?

    OH Wait they already did when they covered up Hillary's collusion with Russia, and her violation of federal law emailing classified and storing, Classified documents on her Home PC without a firewall.

    Just saying.. Pompeo has already been confirmed once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    You have to wonder what the Russians have on Trump that we already don't know about in order to get this sort of blind obedience.
    I think if they had concrete proof of something definitively damaging, at least some of that would've leaked or been uncovered by someone else by now.

    But that doesn't mean that Trump isn't dumb enough to believe any general threats received or implied.

    Or, just to conclude on his own that his activities in Russia were bad enough that he can't safely assume Putin doesn't know.

    In any case, he shows Putin more respect than ANY other world leader save perhaps Bibi Netanyahu, and certainly more forbearance on issues of disagreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    You are delusional. Syria used chemical weapons and Trump Bombs them. Russia uses a nerve agent in the country of one of the USA ‘s strongest allies and Trump fires the only guy in his administration that condemns Russia for doing it. I’m still waiting for Trump to impose the sanctions he was suppose to impose almost 1 year ago against Russia. What is Trump waiting for and why has he done ZIPPO?

    U.S. Response to Russia Election Meddling:
    Obama Aministration-
    1. Obama personally warned Putin against interfering
    2. Imposed sanctions on Russian individuals and entitites
    3. Expelled 35 Russian diplomats
    4. Closed two Russian compounds in the U.S.
    Trump Administration-
    1. Refuses to condemn interference
    2. Has not imposed Russian sanctions overwhelmingly approved by Congress
    So what is Trump supposed to do? Bomb Russia? Is there irrefutable proof that Russia was behind the British attack? You liberals are wacked. First you hate Tillerson and criticize him to no end, spread rumors about him etc. then when he does leave he's all your best friend! What a bunch of maroons you people are!.

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    There is an inner logics in Trump's behaviors.... People who desagree with him have to leave and courtisans remain or are hired. And the President is not a wise man. The more this process will continue, the less Trump will accept to confront himself to reality. Tillerson was a good example because he resisted and argued with Trump. He had a realistic vision of whatever struggles may be ahead and tried to prepare the future. He is now ejected and what will be the outcome ? A lunatic president who believes that international relations work like show business ? Are the US able to deal with the Korean problem simultaneously with trying to cancel the deal made with Iran and leading an hostile commercial Policy against many countries. The USA may loose a lot of support from its allies, who are probably needed to achieve what could be TRump's aims when you try to look behind the slogans. The main question is now what the US can afford to do alone ? When you want to sort out problems and find solution, you have to take one thing after another and actually political issues are piling up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    So what is Trump supposed to do? Bomb Russia? Is there irrefutable proof that Russia was behind the British attack? You liberals are wacked. First you hate Tillerson and criticize him to no end, spread rumors about him etc. then when he does leave he's all your best friend! What a bunch of maroons you people are!.
    I’ll settle with Trump just doing his job and imposing the sanctions he was suppose to impose a year ago for starters. Would you care to explain why he hasn’t done it still !!

    PS Teresa May stood up in her own parliament, where unlike in the USA, she can be questioned directly by her own countries opposition parties. She explained the nerve agent used in the attack is only available inside State controlled Russian agencies. The conclusion is either Russia lost control of the agent or sanctioned its use. She gave the Russians 48 hours to respond and today Russia announced it will not reply. WTF? Exactly what else do you need from Putin a autographed confession? Even State run Russian media has said on the air that it serves as proof that if you betray mother Russia there is no place in the world you will be safe from retribution.
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    Pompeo is a harsh Russian critic. As former CIA Director, this guy is high powered with information. From everything people say, he is a real patriot.

    This move also makes for the first new female head of the CIA.
    A real patriot? What the fuck does that even mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    So what is Trump supposed to do? Bomb Russia? Is there irrefutable proof that Russia was behind the British attack?
    We don't need "irrefutable proof" when an allied head of government has leveled the accusation on the floor of their highest legislative body. We presume they're telling the truth until given proof otherwise.

    And no, we don't bomb Russia, but we do move immediately to condemn them and apply the new sanctions mandated by law that the Trump administration has defiantly declined to apply.
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    A real patriot? What the fuck does that even mean?
    To Crusher, it means being a Trump sycophant.

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