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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    So your evidence is what another person claims without evidence? Since when do you trust republican senators at their word?
    Are you saying that Sen. Roberts is lying? Are you challenging accuracy and honesty of the PBS report? Yes or no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Are you saying that Sen. Roberts is lying? Are you challenging accuracy and honesty of the PBS report? Yes or no.



    yes, I want to see the evidence and the data. it is prudent to research for oneself and come up with facts based on actual evidence not what some guy said somewhere on pbs. I think that's the problem your ilk has, jumping on whatever someone says as gospel and end up standing there with your pee pee in your hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OHjulie View Post
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    Members of an 11-nation Asia-Pacific trade pact said Friday they opposed any renegotiation of the deal to accommodate the U.S. should it decide to rejoin at a later date.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tpp-sasse-says
    Yep. When they hammered out the Asian Pacific agreement they did not invite China. The US took a power role in Asian trade. This time, without us, China was invited of course and made their logical no-brainer move just as they took over our trade in energy in Paris. We can't really undo this cheaply. Everything is going to cost the US more and there are so many in the US who will suffer from loss of trade over all these King Trump moves. Hopefully voters learn the lesson.

    Wait until Trumps dismantles our own continent (that landmass we can't float away from) aka NAFTA. Pain is self imposed. Even republican leadership knows he is dooming us in trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    yes, I want to see the evidence and the data. it is prudent to research for oneself and come up with facts based on actual evidence not what some guy said somewhere on pbs. I think that's the problem your ilk has, jumping on whatever someone says as gospel and end up standing there with your pee pee in your hand.
    Any reason you think that?
    Oh, a serving Senator from his own party is just "some guy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Are you saying that Sen. Roberts is lying? Are you challenging accuracy and honesty of the PBS report? Yes or no.
    He doesn't know Republican Senators and Governors are climbing up Trump's ass.

    President Donald Trump is telling a group of farm state governors and lawmakers that he's pressing China to treat the American agriculture industry fairly.

    Trump is seeking to reassure the lawmakers on proposed China tariffs. He's meeting at the White House with the governors of Iowa, Nebraska and North Dakota and several Midwest senators and House members.

    The president says China has consistently treated U.S. agriculture unfairly and his administration is "changing things with respect to trade."

    He is telling the group, "Everything is going to be better."

    Trump was discussing the Chinese threat to slap tariffs on soybeans and other crops grown in rural America. The move could hurt Midwestern farmers, many of whom are strong supporters of the president.
    The Latest: New Zealand wary of Trump's Pacific trade U-turn | News OK

    ____He doesn't understand that Trump screwed the pooch on these tariffs and farmers are already feeling the pinch on the commodity markets.

    Trump wants to give aid...but these Republican senators know Trump can not deliver BILLIONS in aid that farmers are losing now.


    Hell H O und must believe a bunch of farm Senators are going to take a NY golf couse builder's word that Rural America is going to be OK after Trumps tariffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Any reason you think that?
    Oh, a serving Senator from his own party is just "some guy?"



    You go by what your team tells you to. I go by actual evidence.

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    Notable Democrats who found rare common ground with President Donald Trump on trade bashed his move Thursday to look at rejoining a massive Pacific trade deal. The president's decision to reconsider one of his first acts in office — withdrawing from the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership — opens up another potential line of attack for some Democrats ahead of critical midterm elections in November. Trump partly won the White House by arguing deals such as the TPP hurt manufacturing workers in the Rust Belt, and many Democrats have opposed trade agreements on the same grounds. However, Democrats running this year in certain red states may have to tread carefully around the issue.

    In a tweeted statement Thursday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., argued Trump's move to reconsider is a "ridiculous reversal" and a "slap in the face" to workers. The office of Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent who caucuses with Democrats, tweeted that jumping back into the deal "would be a betrayal of American workers."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/eliz...rade-deal.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    You go by what your team tells you to. I go by actual evidence.
    No you don't. You sign onto everything Trump pulls out of his ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    The only reason Trump was aginst the TPP is that it was a very bad deal for the USA. What is wrong with re-negotiating the deal to make it fair for the US? The same holds for NAFTA. If it cannot be re-negotiated to make the deal fair for the US, then we need to withdraw from NAFTA.
    The agreement was negotiated WIHT he US in the first place.
    Who would want to negotiate ANYTHING with a partner who only shows that s/he don't honors the deals s/he makes ? What's the point ?

    The TPP has now been negotiated further for a year without the US.. good luck begging to get back in and get MORE out of it than we had before.

    This is how Donald makes his deals ?
    laughable.. no wonder he went bankrupt so many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    No you don't. You sign onto everything Trump pulls out of his ass


    Why present yourself as a dishonest person prone to lying?



    I didn't nor would I vote for trump.

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