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    Franken-Stein DemoKKKrats excalibur's Avatar
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    Seizing lawyer-client privileged information is vile. They are in court now fighting this illicit action. At minimum a special master needs to be appointed to go over the seized material, this has occurred in other similar cases in the past, who is from outside the government. The special team assembled in such cases to go over such seized material are merely people who work for the FBI/DoJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Seizing lawyer-client privileged information is vile. They are in court now fighting this illicit action. At minimum a special master needs to be appointed to go over the seized material, this has occurred in other similar cases in the past, who is from outside the government. The special team assembled in such cases to go over such seized material are merely people who work for the FBI/DoJ.
    It's not illegal and arrangements have been made for different teams to assess any material found for relevance to the case or otherwise. If the sifting should turn up a crime, what then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    It was a hand off. They are all related. This initially came from Mueller.

    DoJ / FBI vs. Clinton:

    • ALL of her subordinates received immunity and didn't even have to be interviewed or testify.
    • Clinton interview
      - not under oath
      - not recorded
      - no hard questions
    • Destruction of 33,000 emails under subpoena shrugged off and Attorney Client privilege invoked without question
    • Uranium One deal with Russians signed off on by same FBI/DoJ hacks going after Trump



    DoJ / FBI vs. Trump:

    • No knock 3 AM Search of private residence
    • Unmasking of many Trump Staffers by unknown sources in the Obama Administration (through Samantha Powers user and Susan Rice)
    • Leaking of Unmasked staff by the Obama DoJ / FBI to the press in violation of the 4th Amendment
    • No immunity deals
    • Special Federal Unit established
    • Non mandated investigations on non-Russian Collusion elements
    • Personal Lawyers Home, Office, and Hotel Room raided - No Attorney Client Privilege
    • Multiple DoJ / FBI staff either demoted, reassigned, or fired due to unethical behavior
      - James Comey
      - Peter Strzok
      - Bruce G. Ohr
      - Sally Yates
      - Andrew McCabe
    • DoJ / FBI fought Congressional oversight repeatedly and refused to turn over documents
    • False documents created by Clinton team used to justify warrants and investigation



    I hope Leftists understand that these incredible double standards will historically bury you. What has gone on here is not acceptable and "We the People" (at least the honest ones) will not sit back and let this pass.
    Two words: Ken Star.

    Your complaints about unfair treatment are the height of hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Seizing lawyer-client privileged information is vile. They are in court now fighting this illicit action. At minimum a special master needs to be appointed to go over the seized material, this has occurred in other similar cases in the past, who is from outside the government. The special team assembled in such cases to go over such seized material are merely people who work for the FBI/DoJ.
    The court will decide what is and is not privelaged information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    come on folks. We're missing a big part of the picture here. The FBI is now in procession of damaging information on Trump. So damaging that Cohen is trying to prevent them from looking at it. That's a big friggin deal. This is karmic retribution for Trump waging a war on the FBI. Cuz, let's just be real here. It's the FBI. They can "inadvertently" cause that information to be leaked. Think "wikileaks" and the influence it had on the election. Yeah, like I said....karmic retribution.
    Whut? You are suggesting a federal law enforcement officer can make disclosure of confidential information about an ongoing investigation?

    Seems at least unethical. More likely criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    More information coming out. Cohen had been a subject of investigation by SDNY for some time. To the point where they had secret search warrents on his emails.

    Do you have a link to that document? I may not have time to read it this afternoon, but perhaps late tomorrow night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Whut? You are suggesting a federal law enforcement officer can make disclosure of confidential information about an ongoing investigation?

    Seems at least unethical. More likely criminal.
    in the media I believe they call them "sources". Was "deep throat" legally revealing his information? Are any of the people leaking information about the Mueller investigation? Federal law enforcement knows how to get around legal and ethical standards if they deem it's in the best interest of the agency and/or the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Their is no atty/client privilege regarding crimes.
    That is absolutely not true. If a client tells me he committed a crime, and produces evidence of it:

    1. What he tells me is confidential as a matter of the code of professional conduct, and I may not release it;
    2. The evidence he gives me is likewise confidential and may not be released;
    3. I could potentially be disbarred for violating that confidentiality;
    4. Both items of information would be privileged from being used in a criminal case as a matter of the code of evidence; and,
    5. I may not even destroy the evidence, since that is also a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Seizing lawyer-client privileged information is vile.
    The court determines what is privileged, which is an application of the rules of evidence. A lawyer does not get to use lawyer-client privilege to cover up his own wrongdoing.

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    At minimum a special master needs to be appointed to go over the seized material, this has occurred in other similar cases in the past, who is from outside the government.
    Source law?
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    CNN just reported.

    Cohen facilitated $1.6 million dollar payment to another Playboy Playmate that Trump impregnated. She ended up terminating the pregnancy.

    The Tornado that's has been spinning out of control at the White House is spinning even tighter now.

    You can't make this shit up. Incredible!

    This Friday the 13th keeps getting worse for Trump.
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