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    Colorado teachers walk out

    Teacher walkouts in Kentucky, Oklahoma, West Virginia and elsewhere have dominated the news as of late.

    Now a walkout is planned for Colorado. Dallman expects 400-plus teachers to be on hand Monday as they lobby lawmakers for change.

    The CEA does not like a proposal to raise the retirement age from 58 to 65 in order to stabilize the Colorado Public Employees’ Retirement Association. Controversy with teacher pay in Colorado is not a new issue. According to the National Education Association, Colorado ranks 46th in teacher pay with the average making $46,000 a year. Some rural teachers make less than $30,000. For comparison, Wyoming teachers make an average of $58,000 a year.

    School canceled as hundreds of Colorado teachers plan to walk out Monday | FOX31 Denver

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    My sister's husband was a teacher in Colorado several years ago and they had to use food stamps and food pantries to get by. It's ridiculous how little our society values them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    My sister's husband was a teacher in Colorado several years ago and they had to use food stamps and food pantries to get by. It's ridiculous how little our society values them!
    It wouldnt surprise me if we get a teacher walkout here as well. The problem here in parts of New England is the disparity in pay. Teachers in good suburban districts make good money while those in rural areas or places way out make very little. The inequality is dramatic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    My sister's husband was a teacher in Colorado several years ago and they had to use food stamps and food pantries to get by. It's ridiculous how little our society values them!
    Do you think the conservatives that rail against these teachers for walking out realize they are currently subsidizing them with welfare they pay for? Or do you think they are just too stupid to realize it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Do you think the conservatives that rail against these teachers for walking out realize they are currently subsidizing them with welfare they pay for? Or do you think they are just too stupid to realize it?
    Keep in mind, those same conservatives who oppose public education to begin with also oppose welfare. But they like prisons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    It wouldnt surprise me if we get a teacher walkout here as well. The problem here in parts of New England is the disparity in pay. Teachers in good suburban districts make good money while those in rural areas or places way out make very little. The inequality is dramatic here.
    Here in California, teacher pay is pretty uniform. That's because the school districts' income is pretty uniform. Ironically, the equality is due to a voter proposition passed against the objection of teachers' unions many years ago, called proposition 13, which limited property taxes.

    The loss of property tax revenues led to schools being financed from the general fund, i.e., by the state instead of by the local property tax payers.

    So now a school in the inner city has the same resources as one in an area of million dollar houses. Interesting concept, that.

    Oh, and the average teacher salary in California isn't so bad:

    $67,871
    In the state public school system, teacher salary in California is determined by individual school districts. According to the Sacramento Bee , the average teacher salary in 2011 was $67,871. Districts with the highest average teacher salaries in California are located near Santa Barbara, San Francisco and Los Angeles.Apr 4, 2012

    Teaching Salary in California - Blog | USC Rossier Online
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    That was 7 years ago. It's no doubt more now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Keep in mind, those same conservatives who oppose public education to begin with also oppose welfare. But they like prisons.
    Private prisons, I would imagine.
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    Wish them the best in their efforts.

    But the money for raises/pensions does have to come from somewhere....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Keep in mind, those same conservatives who oppose public education to begin with also oppose welfare. But they like prisons.
    Good one. Nailed those evil rascals with a "three-fer".


    Actually Colorado is sort of a liberal leaning state. Kind of awkward to try and lay all their problems/issues on the conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Keep in mind, those same conservatives who oppose public education to begin with also oppose welfare. But they like prisons.
    I would say Conservatives oppose the massive education spend for the results we receive.... and the indoctrination. The main problem for conservatives is not the teachers, but the administrators in mass pulling down huge money. We spend well over $15K per student a year in some places for K-12. That's insane. It's not the teachers. It's the administrators and the union that supports those jobs.

    We could play all teachers $100K a year with far better retirement, if we went to a proper voucher program.

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