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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Well I assume thats why Wonderer said this was going to be a doozie. Take Trump out of the equation and the optics here are pretty bad. I dont even think mob lawyers had to out clients. Precedents are the backbone of law and like I said this could be a mistake. The feds had to wiretap mobster Petti back a couple decades ago because they couldnt use papers due to attorney-client privlege.

    FBI Targeting Lawyers in War on Mob : Crime: Strategy is evident in San Diego wiretap case, where an attorney was indicted along with alleged Mafiosi. - latimes
    Rarely do they consider the long-term effects of the actions. In their zeal to get at the President they are basically destroying our legal system. Because if a client can't trust his or her lawyer we're in a world of trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Big deal. Tey aren't investigating Hannity. For that matter they are not investigating Trump either.
    Mmm

    Stormy Daniels for one

    And potentially Cohen's trip to Prague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Rarely do they consider the long-term effects of the actions. In their zeal to get at the President they are basically destroying our legal system. Because if a client can't trust his or her lawyer we're in a world of trouble.
    Stop it.

    Everything was done by the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I would like to know what the "probable cause" was to justify the search and seizure.

    Partisans can't be relied upon in issues like this because they only care about the fourth amendment when it's protecting their political allies.

    I'm also confused what is controversial about Hannity being a client of Cohen? Why are so many people in this thread acting like that's some kind of bombshell? ...

    I suspect Hannity may have retained his services back when he was accused of sexual harassment. But that's just a guess.

    In any case - until I see what the probable cause actually was I remain of the belief this was a desperate fishing expedition designed by an overzealous prosecutor desperately searching for some dirt on the President. And if you're looking for dirt on someone - obviously their lawyer is a good place to start, especially if you can get the attorney/client privilege thrown out which looks to be exactly what they are trying to do.
    Whatever it was the judge denied both Cohen and Trumps lawyers request to repeal it and have the documents returned and unread. She also denied the need for special treatment of more than the usual taint team review that other similar cases have had re privilege.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Stop it.

    Everything was done by the book.
    No. By the book would mean that the President's communication with his lawyer was privileged. This farce to call him a "fixer" instead of the President's lawyer so as to dismiss the attorney/client privilege sounds like bullshit to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I'm not seeing the big deal either..

    It seems now that their Russian Collusion conspiracy has basically collapsed and no one is taking their Russian puppet nonsense seriously anymore they are getting quite desperate: especially if Hannity being a client of Cohen is their new insidious conspiracy.
    Actually, it's looking like the collusion charge is gaining steam, not dissipating as you hopefully claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Stop it.

    Everything was done by the book.
    One hopes. But it's no more safe to assume that than it's safe to assume it wasn't. Every piece of information we ingest is coming from a biased source. Trust but verify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Whatever it was the judge denied both Cohen and Trumps lawyers request to repeal it and have the documents returned and unread. She also denied the need for special treatment of more than the usual taint team review that other similar cases have had re privilege.
    I don't have much confidence in our judges lately when it comes to evaluating probable cause.... so the fact a Judge signed off on it doesn't mean anything to me.

    I want to know what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Big deal. Tey aren't investigating Hannity. For that matter they are not investigating Trump either.
    Legally it’s probably not a big deal. In fact the actual prosecutors said they didn’t have an opinion one way or the other on disclosing the third client.

    Comically, it’s fucking hilarious. Hannity gets out there every night and peddles his deep state conspiracy theories. And then it turns out, ironically, that he failed to disclose that Cohen was his attorney while shtupping for him all week on TV. He is his own deep state
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Actually, it's looking like the collusion charge is gaining steam, not dissipating as you hopefully claim.
    I guess that's why Mueller has yet to indict a single person for Russian Collusion.

    If that's gaining steam then I think it's safe to assume the both of us do not agree on what that phrase means.

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