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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Mmm

    Stormy Daniels for one

    And potentially Cohen's trip to Prague.
    So now they are investigating two different Cohen's? Damn....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    No. By the book would mean that the President's communication with his lawyer was privileged. This farce to call him a "fixer" instead of the President's lawyer so as to dismiss the attorney/client privilege is total bullshit on it's face.

    So you stop it.
    Not all the time.

    For example, if a lawyer is investigated for criminal activity, and if that lawyer's communications with a client are a part of that criminal enterprise, naturally the attorney-client privilege is voided:

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...privilege.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Not all the time.

    For example, if a lawyer is investigated for criminal activity, and if that lawyer's communications with a client are a part of that criminal enterprise, naturally the attorney-client privilege is voided:

    https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...privilege.html
    But what crime is Cohen being accused of?

    As far as I know he hasn't been charged with anything. There is merely some attempt to go fishing into his communications with the President. Would you like it if your enemies could go through all your communications with your lawyer? I know I sure wouldn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I guess that's why Mueller has yet to indict a single person for Russian Collusion.

    If that's gaining steam then I think it's safe to assume the both of us do not agree on what that phrase means.
    Colluding is not a crime. However, colluding can lead to many crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    But what crime is Cohen being accused of?

    As far as I know he hasn't been charged with anything. There is merely some attempt to go fishing into his communications with the President.
    Lying to the FBI is a sure possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Actually, it's looking like the collusion charge is gaining steam, not dissipating as you hopefully claim.
    Oh collusion is gaining steam...just not on the side you were expecting. It's about to get damned ugly which is exactly why Muller deployed this propaganda expedition of raiding Cohen. Then leak out every potential half truth they can spin to make it look bad. Hell, they already started leaking.

    Just an attempt to get out in front of the OIG report about to be released. Can't wait to see the twisting by you guys when that is released.

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    Trump’s attorney now arguing not even a Special Master is not good enough. They alone should be able to review the materials

    Hendon also objects to a third-party special master. "We do not think a special master will adequately protect the privilege for the president."
    Apparently he’s a super duper special snow flake

    Sure, Jan
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Colluding is not a crime. However, colluding can lead to many crimes.
    Illegally conspiring with a foreign power would be the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservatarian View Post
    So now they are investigating two different Cohen's? Damn....
    Mmmm, no
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    I would like to know what the "probable cause" was to justify the search and seizure.

    Partisans can't be relied upon in issues like this because they only care about the fourth amendment when it's protecting their political allies.

    I'm also confused what is controversial about Hannity being a client of Cohen? Why are so many people in this thread acting like that's some kind of bombshell? ...

    I suspect Hannity may have retained his services back when he was accused of sexual harassment. But that's just a guess.

    In any case - until I see what the probable cause actually was I remain of the belief this was a desperate fishing expedition designed by an overzealous prosecutor desperately searching for some dirt on the President. And if you're looking for dirt on someone - obviously their lawyer is a good place to start, especially if you can get the attorney/client privilege thrown out which looks to be exactly what they are trying to do.
    You are thinking of 'probable cause' as some concrete proof of wrong-doing. That is not the case.

    A ruling by a judge that a "substantial chance" or "fair probability" of criminal activity could establish probable cause.

    You want a judge to explain to you the "substantial chance" or "fair probability" of Cohen's criminal activity to issue warrant?

    sounds like you're fishing.
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