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    federal judge says cohen is likely to be indicted.

    A federal judge in California on Friday ordered a three-month delay in the lawsuit brought by the pornographic film star Stephanie Clifford against President Trump, citing what he called the likelihood that Michael D. Cohen, Mr. Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, will be indicted.

    In granting a defense request for the postponement, the judge, S. James Otero of United States District Court in Los Angeles, sided with the president’s legal team that the unusual circumstances of the case warranted the stay of action. Judge Otero acknowledged in his order that complications might arise from an overlap with a criminal investigation into Mr. Cohen.

    “This is no simple criminal investigation,” Judge Otero wrote. “It is an investigation into the personal attorney of a sitting president regarding documents that might be subject to the attorney-client privilege. Whether or not an indictment is forthcoming, and the court thinks it likely based on these facts alone, these unique circumstances counsel in favor of stay.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/u...n-lawsuit.html

    my money is on a federal judge being able to see the likelihood of an indictment here. Sure. There are legal pundits on the various networks who might say the judge is jumping the gun , or what ever. But, let's not forget how easy it is to get an indictment. The judge isn't making any predictions as to the likelihood Cohen will be convicted of a crime. That's for folks like PH members to do on our own. This isn't a court of law. So opinions are fair game. We're living through history in real time in this country. Commenting on it as we're experiencing it is only natural. That said....

    Cohen is going down and he's going to take Daft Donny with him.
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    This sounds like a procedural issue more than anything else, which can happen when simultaneous civil and criminal actions are pending with regard to the same person. I have had that when, for example, representing a guy in a divorce, the restraining order his then-wife got against him, and the criminal charge that was filed against him. (We won all three. In terms of the divorce part, it means we got what we asked for and self-representing wife got yelled at frequently by the judge.) In these situations, since a person can be required to testify in a civil case but not a criminal one, the criminal case must be resolved before the civil ones can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    This sounds like a procedural issue more than anything else, which can happen when simultaneous civil and criminal actions are pending with regard to the same person. I have had that when, for example, representing a guy in a divorce, the restraining order his then-wife got against him, and the criminal charge that was filed against him. (We won all three. In terms of the divorce part, it means we got what we asked for and self-representing wife got yelled at frequently by the judge.) In these situations, since a person can be required to testify in a civil case but not a criminal one, the criminal case must be resolved before the civil ones can be.
    thanks. That's what I've been hearing as well. Typically, the civil case is stayed until after the criminal case. What's obviously different here is Cohen is the presidents personal attorney, he's indicated that he'll plead the 5th, and the criminal case involves issues that may, or may not, end up being part of impeachment recommendation.
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    Would be surprising if Cohen wasn't indicted.

    Am guessing the bar is set pretty high to get a Federal Judge to sign off on search warrant against the US President's private attorney. Suggesting that law enforcement already had some substantial evidence against Cohen even before the searches were conducted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Would be surprising if Cohen wasn't indicted.

    Am guessing the bar is set pretty high to get a Federal Judge to sign off on search warrant against the US President's private attorney. Suggesting that law enforcement already had some substantial evidence against Cohen even before the searches were conducted.
    and watch what happens when he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    and watch what happens when he is.
    I'll bite.

    What's gonna happen....??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    I'll bite.

    What's gonna happen....??
    the media is going to go nuts. It's going to be "breaking news" all day...maybe two or three days. And we're all going to start snarling and barking at each other from our respective tribal bunkers. Same as it ever was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    the media is going to go nuts. It's going to be "breaking news" all day...maybe two or three days. And we're all going to start snarling and barking at each other from our respective tribal bunkers. Same as it ever was.

    That works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Am guessing the bar is set pretty high to get a Federal Judge to sign off on search warrant against the US President's private attorney. Suggesting that law enforcement already had some substantial evidence against Cohen even before the searches were conducted.
    The bar is pretty high to get a federal judge to sign off on a search warrant against any attorney, when regarding potentially confidential materials, whether the president's attorney or not. That Cohen was the President's attorney is not even legally relevant.
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    Wait... Judge "Otero"?

    Oh, damn... gonna get good when the President hears that last name.

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