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    Civis americanus borealis Singularity's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    To be fair, Russian Orthodox Church, for example, sees American Christians, like Mormons and Baptists and such, as imposters and heathens too lol
    Has the Russian government said that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I asked my Pastor how it was possible for my generation to dislike Jews because they killed Christ. Only a handful of Jews followed him, to today we are supposed to love all Jews.

    My young Pastor said it was one of the hardest things to preach about.

    I ask one Evangelical here to answer me.

    I do not think either way because those living today did not do anything.
    I was never taught hatred (or dislike) for Jews because "they killed Christ." Have always been taught love for Jews as God's chosen. And that's both from the UCC and a non-denominational/evangelical church. And never in the apocalyptic sense either. Which isn't to say there aren't people who've espoused those beliefs. Just haven't been part of my experience as a Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    At this point I'm just going to throw up my hands, sir. If you guys really want to argue it's no big deal the federal government got into bed with a Jew hater at its high-profile event in Israel, go ahead.

    Set a trend for wearing clown shoes for all I care. But don't think for a moment you're not transparently eager to dismiss an embarrassing story because it reflects poorly on your favored politicians.
    Mr. Singularity,

    The Federal government is not into bed with Jew Hater at its high-profile event.

    The person in question is a evangelical. He doesn't hate Jewish people, just doesn't see that as a path to heaven. Just like Jewish people don't see Christians as the chosen people.

    Again, please, the reading comprehension class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    I'm saying lots of people do it, both left and right. I find it silly.
    We got the point several posts ago. Now back to the subject of the top post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderer View Post
    I was never taught hatred (or dislike) for Jews because "they killed Christ." Have always been taught love for Jews as God's chosen. And that's both from the UCC and a non-denominational/evangelical church. And never in the apocalyptic sense either. Which isn't to say there aren't people who've espoused those beliefs. Just haven't been part of my experience as a Christian.
    Thanks, but the Church I grew up in taught just that. Just one of the reasons I left.

    I had been away to different Denominations, went back. Bad mistake. But I am happily out now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    You made it personal, but, considering I expressed no outrage whatsoever, an intelligent person can extrapolate that you meant no one gives a rat's ass about other people's outrage. It's either that or you are incapable of following the actual conversation here.
    Here's how the conversation when....
    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    I'll never understand the "If you're not outraged by what outrages me, there's something wrong with you" mindset. It must be an authoritarian collectivist thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    no one really gives a rats ass if you're outraged.
    I responded to your claims in using the same precise language that you used.

    You, then, read something completely different into my response.
    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    Agreed. Thank you for making my point. No one really gives a rat's ass if a few pansies are outraged over the situation in the OP.
    These are your words. Not mine. ^^^
    Now watch what happens next.

    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    who taught you how to read?
    My words.
    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    A teacher more competent than yours, obviously.
    Your words.
    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    except, you're the one reading things into comments that aren't there.
    Me again. Now...watch what you do next.
    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    Incorrect. You said no one gives a rat's ass about other people's outrage. I agreed.
    Again...these are your words. Not mine. Yet, you're claiming I'm the one that said them.

    Seems clear that you're the one that can't follow your own conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Bibi Netanyahu sucked up Trump and Republicans. He wants the Us to fight his war with Iran and Trump fell right in.

    Evangelicals think the BS about Israel is setting them up for the second coming of Christ.

    The most twisted thinking I have ever seen. And,is slowly killing the very thing they claim is most important to them. Christianity.
    I'm apprehensive about saying what I'm about to say, since I don't want to come off as some deranged anti-Semite or something. But I think it's true that Israel has exercised powerful control over recent US foreign policy, in a manner that's really harmful to the US.

    Take the Iraq invasion. It doesn't lessen the guilt of the American warmongers (and the blood-lusting rabble in the US) to point out that we were actively snookered into starting that war. Our intelligence stream was deliberately and repeatedly polluted by lies from abroad. Just to take the most famous example, there was the Niger memo -- a forgery purporting to show that Iraq tried to get uranium from Niger -- a forgery that was part of an orchestrated attempt to freak people out about Baghdad's supposed nuclear capabilities, so we'd start a war. The thing people bizarrely fail to talk about with respect to that forgery is this: whenever there's a forgery, there's a forger. Someone sat down and faked that memo, then had the wherewithal to inject it into the intelligence stream of the western nations. The same is true for lies about Iraq supporting al Qaeda, and lies about various Iraqi facilities being WMD sites.

    If we'd had a decent president back then, we'd have put the brakes on the rush for war once we started realizing how much of the case for war consisted of deliberate fabrications coming from unknown sources. We'd have refocused, instead, on figuring out who was trying to trick us into conquering Iraq, and why. We'd have followed up diligently on every phony claim and fake document to figure out whose fingerprints were on it. Instead, we rushed to war as quickly as possible, never bothering to figure out who was feeding us all that bullshit.

    I believe Israel was responsible for much of that. I don't have any solid evidence of that, other than the fact that they have a track record of manipulating the US, and a real appetite for acts of aggression against their Middle Eastern neighbors. We saw how Netanyahu played a major role on stage in pushing for America to launch that wildly destructive and counter-productive war. If he was doing all that on center stage, I fully expect he was also doing plenty behind the scenes, as well. And that, in turn, makes me greatly skeptical of ANY middle eastern cause when Israel has a big stake in the matter. I believe they deliberately distort our view of the region, in order to get the US to do their dirty work. And, right now, I think that means trying to get us to kick over the Iranian regime for them, the same way we did the Hussein regime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Singularity,

    The Federal government is not into bed with Jew Hater at its high-profile event.

    The person in question is a evangelical. He doesn't hate Jewish people, just doesn't see that as a path to heaven. Just like Jewish people don't see Christians as the chosen people.

    Again, please, the reading comprehension class.
    Oh, this tired rhetoric. "I don't hate people, I just believe they're going to hell unless they agree with me." And Jews don't believe in hell as Christians do.

    All dead people stay dead until the Messiah appears, assuming he ever does. God will decide... helps to read about these things.

    Beyond that, he has called the Catholic Church — not its beliefs, its creed and its leaders — tools of Satan who must be opposed as enemies.

    Same goes, of course, for all Muslims and Mormons. How are those clown shoes fitting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    lol.... instead of celebrating a historic move, we have Leftists looking to be outraged! Outraged I tell you!


    TDS is what it is. And as the Papadopolous matter is exposed as s deep state entrapment expect some of these folks to lose it more than they already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Robert Jeffress seems like a clumsy pick.

    Meh.....i'm over it.



    Here's another article:

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/us-n...ning-jerusalem
    Pretty much.

    But, I expect more outrage from you if "we" are to take you more serious!

    Bad pick... who cares that much?

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