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    I read back when Perez was selected head of the DNC that he was selected mostly by Sanders people and that he and Ellison will "help" Sanders should he decide to run in 2020 since he and his supporters feel they got screwed in the 2016 primaries.
    Well, I disapprove of Perez and Ellison, too, FWIW. Maybe someone decent will try to primary Trump, and I can work on that person's behalf. Otherwise, it will end up being another election to sit out apart from voting (which is a necessity no matter who the players end up being).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That point is irrelevant to Bajisima's and Babba's, however. We cannot simply "get rid of" political parties - any or all of them. It would be politically and constitutionally impossible, as well as (like Bajisima says) ultimately undesirable, no matter how emotionally satisfying it may be to say so.
    It reminds of the Trump voters who just wanted a change. They didn't care if Trump wasn't qualified or could be even remotely competent. It's so immature and shortsighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Well, the adults care and don't want the chaos that would ensue if we just blow them up.
    They CAUSE chaos!
    EVERYTHING that we bitch about this country is because of them. They have had a monopoly on this country for over 100 yrs. Dont give me that establishment rhetoric malarkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Well, I disapprove of Perez and Ellison, too, FWIW. Maybe someone decent will try to primary Trump, and I can work on that person's behalf. Otherwise, it will end up being another election to sit out apart from voting (which is a necessity no matter who the players end up being).
    Honestly I hope both sides put up lots of people to run in the primaries. Maybe cooler heads will prevail and we end up with two halfway decent people to choose from. New and younger would be desirable I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    It reminds of the Trump voters who just wanted a change. They didn't care if Trump wasn't qualified or could be even remotely competent. It's so immature and shortsighted.
    Like obama? Please, ellen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I read back when Perez was selected head of the DNC that he was selected mostly by Sanders people and that he and Ellison will "help" Sanders should he decide to run in 2020 since he and his supporters feel they got screwed in the 2016 primaries. Now I dont know what that means but I guess the DNC did change their superdelegates and the system they use. So I am not sure if I agree with that but certainly Bernie is out there getting the most name recognition, far more than anyone else at this point.
    how did he get screwed? That's just too funny. There were some things going on internally with the DNC. But, most voters had no idea about them when they voted. Sanders used the DNC resources and data. Then, refused to allow them to access his own data. He's in this for himself. Bottom line. I don't think he really even cares about his own supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNHarley View Post
    Like obama? Please, ellen.
    Obama had experience in governing and extensive knowledge of how our form of government works as well as being a constitutional scholar. He was a competent president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    how did he get screwed? That's just too funny. There were some things going on internally with the DNC. But, most voters had no idea about them when they voted. Sanders used the DNC resources and data. Then, refused to allow them to access his own data. He's in this for himself. Bottom line. I don't think he really even cares about his own supporters.
    Well thats their term not mine. In fact Weaver was talking about this last evening in an interview I saw. He used the term "rigged" again implying Bernie would have won had the DNC not stacked the deck against him. Thats the purpose behind his book. All it does is rile up supporters again. He and Bernie are both planning big college rallies in the fall so I suspect the kiddos will be in support of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    That point is irrelevant to Bajisima's and Babba's, however. We cannot simply "get rid of" political parties - any or all of them. It would be politically and constitutionally impossible, as well as (like Bajisima says) ultimately undesirable, no matter how emotionally satisfying it may be to say so.
    constitutionally impossible? I clearly stated i wanted them to destroy themselves. Die form within. Pretty sure that wont cause a constitutional crisis. LOL
    Undesirable? Do you understand how many people are tired of the duopoly? Some people would actually start to fix things around here. Instead of killing innocent people, creating wedge issues, Trashing the people that think a little different from you, Not giving a crap about spending and 1000 other bullcrap moves they do.
    The establishment has brainwashed the voters into thinking
    "i will waste my vote if i dont vote for a dem or rep"
    Think about how many people think like that. Think about what could happen if everyone that thought that DID something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    how did he get screwed? That's just too funny. There were some things going on internally with the DNC. But, most voters had no idea about them when they voted. Sanders used the DNC resources and data. Then, refused to allow them to access his own data. He's in this for himself. Bottom line. I don't think he really even cares about his own supporters.
    He reminds me of Ralph Nader. Nader never did anything other run every 4 years. Useless as tits on a bull. Sanders runs his mouth a lot but I don't see what he's accomplished other than getting Trump elected.

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