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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Exactly! I'm a pragmatist. I like my politicians to be pragmatists. That's one reason I've always liked Hillary so much. Idealists have there place, but they're just not great at legislating or governing.
    I think the word,” Common sense,” is fitting here. I like that here.Posturing,shouting,pie in the sky,promise everything does not work for me.

    I considered Bernie a blowhard like Trump from the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Well thats their term not mine. In fact Weaver was talking about this last evening in an interview I saw. He used the term "rigged" again implying Bernie would have won had the DNC not stacked the deck against him. Thats the purpose behind his book. All it does is rile up supporters again. He and Bernie are both planning big college rallies in the fall so I suspect the kiddos will be in support of him.
    the title of his book is an admission that they never cared about winning the primary. It was all about Sanders and his grievances with the Dems. Sanders has been on his victory tour since Hillary lost the general election. And, quite frankly, a lot of people are sick of him. He's got a lot of good ideas that deserve to be part of the discussion. It's just his tactics that I find objectionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I do think Sanders supporters are a lot like Trump supporters. Both want to blow up and destroy their respective parties. Am not sure either knows what they want to start over with though.
    I thinlk Bernie supporters are clear on what they want....they are aiming to introduce more of the social democratic policies as seen in much of europe....like Sweden. I can tell you, it works, but corruption has to be reduced and the dems and repubs are pure corruption now, they both need to be scrapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    uh, Bernie didn't win. He lost. But, that's the title of a new book by Jeff Weaver. A better title would be "How Bernie Helped Trump Win". I mean, these guys have got a lot of nerve. There is still a lot of resentment out there over how Bernie held the DNC hostage until he got the concessions he wanted. A lot of resentment because even after he was given far more than he was entitled to given his HRC margin of victory, his supporters still refused to concede the nomination to HRC. That's not saying that HRC didn't make mistakes during her campaign. But, for the love of God, this is just going to divide the party. Coming from someone that isn't even a Democrat.




    BUAHahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa aaa!!!!!!!!




    it's everyone's fault but hillary's.


    even with the fix in, in the DNC and the media, she couldn't win. but lets keep blaming others.




    btw, why are you right wingers constantly bringing up hillary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    BUAHahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa aaa!!!!!!!!




    it's everyone's fault but hillary's.


    even with the fix in, in the DNC and the media, she couldn't win. but lets keep blaming others.




    btw, why are you right wingers constantly bringing up hillary?
    He didn't say it was everyone's fault but Hillary's. Did you miss this sentence? "That's not saying that HRC didn't make mistakes during her campaign."

    The OP is about Sanders and the Democratic primary. Hillary was his opponent in the primary. That's why she comes up in this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    I thinlk Bernie supporters are clear on what they want....they are aiming to introduce more of the social democratic policies as seen in much of europe....like Sweden. I can tell you, it works, but corruption has to be reduced and the dems and repubs are pure corruption now, they both need to be scrapped.
    and the way Sanders manipulates the system to his own advantage is just as corrupt. He even said himself that if he ever ran as a Democrat that would make him a hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    He didn't say it was everyone's fault but Hillary's. Did you miss this sentence? "That's not saying that HRC didn't make mistakes during her campaign."

    The OP is about Sanders and the Democratic primary. Hillary was his opponent in the primary. That's why she comes up in this discussion.



    That's simplistic "CYA".



    Hillary was also trumps opponent, but you folks scream that that's "verboten" because she lost.


    How is that any different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Why is it important to have experience in everything else but not in governing? That's absurd. What's needed is public financing of campaigns so that politicians aren't beholden to big money and big business. That's where the root of the problem.

    Random change for the sake of change is not the solution to this problem.
    Random change? You call a 100 year monopoly random? Lol
    You dont need to be a career politician to care for your country and her citizens. I mean, you want experience but consider 2 years(and not really that considering how much he campaigned) experience? LOL
    They have a huge staff for a reason. They have many advisors for a reason.
    "we cant do anything about our govt until we get the corrupt duopoly to give up financing" LMAO and THAT is logical how?

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    Guess who made it so hard for the duopoly to lose power? The DUOPOLY LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    and the way Sanders manipulates the system to his own advantage is just as corrupt. He even said himself that if he ever ran as a Democrat that would make him a hypocrite.
    Do you know the definition of corrupt? He is stuck with a 2 party system, thats not his doing.

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