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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    How the entire case against manafort is fruit of the poison tree... In other words; he's got a solid argument to have all the evidence declared inadmissible.
    you should do stand up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    No. The evidence would have had to have been obtained illegally in order to be considered the "fruit of a poison tree". None of the warrants used in this investigation, either before or after Mueller became Special Counsel, have been challenged in court, much less found to be legally defective.

    Conspiracy theories on the Internet don't count.
    No conspiracy, it's all documented, and public. From multiple angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    you should do stand up.
    I'm not creative enough... I couldn't make up these things up if I tried.

    Seriously, even I wouldn't have thought that the president would sign off on interfering in the election process of his successor, but using the legitimate surveillance system of the US that is designated for foreign use.

    That they were so certain she would win that they didn't even bother to cover up their crimes, until some FBI agents thought of an insurance policy that would deal with the circumstance of her losing.

    If I was that creative, I would just write fiction and make a million dollars instead of debating on some obscure forum for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    No conspiracy, it's all documented, and public. From multiple angles.

    No, it isn't. That's wild-eyed bullshit.

    Nobody, not even Nunes, has challenged any search warrants related to the Russia investigation in a court of law. That is the objective truth of the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post

    It is not "jargon." Words have meaning. There is a world of difference between an application for a warrant, and a warrant. One is a request; the other is the granting or denial of that request. The difference is not all that complicated.
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    Yes, words have a specific meaning... the jargon is when you get into the specific technical verbiage within a profession. Asking for a screwdriver is probably sufficient... on the other hand you might need the T8 security torx screwdriver.

    We are getting into jargon, where a lay person in the field would understand the meaning, but that is not sufficient for the person who knows the jargon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    How in the world is Mueller not a good person? Do you even know his background? You really should look it up. He is, by all accounts, a highly honorable man according to multiple sources that are NOT right wing.

    But I like that he apparently strikes fear in Trump supporters over and over again with how often they trash talk on him

    Good luck to them with that.
    Mueller a good guy? LOL.

    Mueller, along with a cadre of people loyal to Obama set traps to try and deny the presidency to Donald Trump. Then they, as a group, tried to and are continuing to try to thwart the results of the election.

    I personally believe that Comey, Clapper, Brennen, Rosenstein, and other high ranking members of both the FBI and the DOJ are all involved. I also believe it was all based on false unverified information paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. This was also the same information that Senator McCain was duped into giving the FBI by people that knew that McCain had a grudge against Donald Trump.

    This group of self righteous people believe themselves to be patriots just like the high ranking people in government that conspired to assassinate JFK in 1963.

    It is starting to unravel.

    Even Rolling Stone released the code name of the Operation and the people involved; "Cross-fire Hurricane."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...stigation.html

    What is more important is that half of the country believes exactly what I posted above. And about 64% believes that Mueller is a biased prosecutor on a witch hunt.

    Give it another few weeks and then get back to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTexas View Post
    Mueller a good guy? LOL.

    Mueller, along with a cadre of people loyal to Obama set traps to try and deny the presidency to Donald Trump. Then they, as a group, tried to and are continuing to try to thwart the results of the election.

    I personally believe that Comey, Clapper, Brennen, Rosenstein, and other high ranking members of both the FBI and the DOJ are all involved. I also believe it was all based on false unverified information paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. This was also the same information that Senator McCain was duped into giving the FBI by people that knew that McCain had a grudge against Donald Trump.

    This group of self righteous people believe themselves to be patriots just like the high ranking people in government that conspired to assassinate JFK in 1963.

    It is starting to unravel.

    Even Rolling Stone released the code name of the Operation and the people involved; "Cross-fire Hurricane."

    I bet you will not read that in the NYTimes or see these revelations on CNN or MSNBC.

    What is more important is that half of the country believes exactly what I posted above. And about 64% believes that Mueller is a biased prosecutor on a witch hunt.

    Give it another few weeks and then get back to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTexas View Post
    Mueller a good guy? LOL.

    Mueller, along with a cadre of people loyal to Obama set traps to try and deny the presidency to Donald Trump. Then they, as a group, tried to and are continuing to try to thwart the results of the election.

    I personally believe that Comey, Clapper, Brennen, Rosenstein, and other high ranking members of both the FBI and the DOJ are all involved. I also believe it was all based on false unverified information paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. This was also the same information that Senator McCain was duped into giving the FBI by people that knew that McCain had a grudge against Donald Trump.

    This group of self righteous people believe themselves to be patriots just like the high ranking people in government that conspired to assassinate JFK in 1963.

    It is starting to unravel.

    Even Rolling Stone released the code name of the Operation and the people involved; "Cross-fire Hurricane."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/u...stigation.html

    What is more important is that half of the country believes exactly what I posted above. And about 64% believes that Mueller is a biased prosecutor on a witch hunt.

    Give it another few weeks and then get back to me.
    Wow, so we have another tin foil hat member here??

    Awesome!!!! It's always fun to see the crazy things they post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Ok... I don't know the correct jargon, the fact is that Obama proper signed off on the authenticity of the evidence or that he felt it was important... Whatever.

    Bottom line. If not for the actions of both Clinton and Obama there never would have been an investigation into Russian collusion to start.
    And the Russians could have just continued with this shit show of meddling in perpetuity?

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