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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Just a typo on a form, huh?

    That's funny!
    For business dealings with Ukraine. (Ukraine is not Russia)

    We will learn more details in time anyway... Things have not been going well for mueller, if the goal is a trump impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    Calm down. She was patted down, not manhandled. This is from the only “source” claiming “manhandling”

    The horror!!! Lordy
    Yeah...this is "manhandling"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    For business dealings with Ukraine. (Ukraine is not Russia)

    We will learn more details in time anyway... Things have not been going well for mueller, if the goal is a trump impeachment.

    Is that what your Oracle told you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Is that what your Oracle told you?
    Well, in a sense, Qanon did post about the coming indictment, and that was about a week in advance, but that was confirmed in the media during all the hooplah over him being indicted.

    Look, it might have been intentional fraud, I don't know and don't really have allegiance to him in any sense. However, his indictment relates to Ukraine financial issues, it's a broad range of possibilities, I just went to the least extreme I would think could apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Because cops assumed she sleeps with a gun between her tits or something? Really?

    Manafort maintains his innocence, but even worst case, there's no connection to Russia or collusion or influence peddling... It was tax issues, like the wrong form filled out. International finance laws are complex enough that it allows for selective enforcement anyway.
    Manafort, a former chairman for the Trump campaign, has been charged in D.C. with money laundering, failure to register foreign lobbying and false statements. He has pleaded not guilty in that case, as well as in the charges that included bank fraud and tax fraud that were brought against him in Virginia.
    The guy is a fucking crook...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    For business dealings with Ukraine. (Ukraine is not Russia)

    Heh!

    Not yet. Except, you know, for that southern part. What do they call it? Oh yeah... Crimea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Because cops assumed she sleeps with a gun between her tits or something? Really?

    Manafort maintains his innocence, but even worst case, there's no connection to Russia or collusion or influence peddling... It was tax issues, like the wrong form filled out. International finance laws are complex enough that it allows for selective enforcement anyway.
    Because when you’re in the house during a no knock warrant, you’re getting pat down before you breath let alone move.


    Black dudes get shot for looking at cops wrong, but heaven forbid a white lady get pat down during the legal execution of a warrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    For business dealings with Ukraine. (Ukraine is not Russia)
    The judge disagrees.

    "Who had connections to the Russian government? Who attended meetings on behalf of the campaign?" Berman Jackson wrote. "Given the combination of his prominence within the campaign and his ties to Ukrainian officials supported by and operating out of Russia, as well as to Russian oligarchs, Manafort was an obvious person of interest."

    We will learn more details in time anyway... Things have not been going well for mueller, if the goal is a trump impeachment.
    Mueller’s goal is to find out how Russia meddled in the 2016 election and if anyone in the Trump campaign helped them to do so.

    Things have been going great for Mueller. He already has several indictments, several guilty pleas, as well as several cooperating witnesses.

    Compared to special council’s of the past, Mueller has been able to do a lot in a short amount of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    Because when you’re in the house during a no knock warrant, you’re getting pat down before you breath let alone move.


    Black dudes get shot for looking at cops wrong, but heaven forbid a white lady get pat down during the legal execution of a warrant
    Ya, warrants like that are really useful to convince a jury that a person is guilty. Same thing could have been accomplished with a phone call to his accountant.

    There's something about watching a cop toss people around that helps to make a jury think they deserved it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Ya, warrants like that are really useful to convince a jury that a person is guilty. Same thing could have been accomplished with a phone call to his accountant.

    There's something about watching a cop toss people around that helps to make a jury think they deserved it.
    Those issues are all irrelevant to whether the defendant is guilty or not, and are not appropriate to raise at trial. They could be appropriate for a pretrial motion to determine admissibility, if there was an alleged violation of the 4th Amendment, but that would be a legal issue to be determined by the court and would not involve a jury.
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