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    Small thing, but Giulianiís claim that Mueller says itís a ďDOJ ruleĒ while he thinks itís a ďconstitutional ruleĒ shows just how out of depth he is on the legal side. Itís DOJís interpretation of the constitution, not some separate rule or regulation.

    Not trying to be pedantic - you would just think the presidentís lead lawyer and a former US attorney would have some basic understanding of how the law works.

    https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/s...72086705655808

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    who gives a shit? mueller can easily lay out a case that the fucker is a criminal and let the GOP defend him. Best thing that can happen to the democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    No chess players on the right I guess.
    What is the analog you were referencing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    My guess;
    1. Mueller will indict if Congress doesn't impeach and remove Trump. (not gonna happen)
    2. NY or Penn state AG's will indict and no prez pardon is available for state indictments/convictions
    3. Trump will weasel out and resign like Nixon.
    If Pence tries to pardon Trump he will be impeached and removed.
    An alternative:
    There's no evidence with which an indictment would be possible,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Correct but it was in the Clinton investigation that the legal summation was presented that a sitting President can be indicted by a grand jury. This was the memo:

    ďIt is proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting president for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the presidentís official duties,Ē

    The question of whether a sitting President can be indicted has yet to be tested in court. Clinton was compelled to respond to a subpoena and testify, but he was never indicted for a crime.

    DOJ guidelines currently suggest that a sitting President cannot be indicted, but their guidelines are merely suggestions. Only the courts could make the final determination, should a President ever be indicted.
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    As long as they indict the rest of the criminals in the family, works for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    As long as they indict the rest of the criminals in the family, works for me.

    The family members definitely have no shield from indictment. Pardon power is the only thing they have going for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    The family members definitely have no shield from indictment. Pardon power is the only thing they have going for them.
    How much of that can Trump stand without resigning? Especially if they use state charges he cant pardon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    How much of that can Trump stand without resigning? Especially if they use state charges he cant pardon.

    That's why he wanted his finances to be hidden behind a "red line". You're right though, in that the President can't pardon state crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    An alternative:
    There's no evidence with which an indictment would be possible,.
    What's already public knowledge is indictable and probably convicttable.
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