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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Apparently many Rino's believe in Mexico instead of the USA. They and democrats share a lot.
    We certainly aren't Putin-bots who purport to believe in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    an interesting proposal. I agree. e-verify is the way to accomplish your item 2, but the program is currently voluntary. it is up to the feds to make it mandatory - as is your item 1. will they do it? they haven't seemed to consider it yet, regardless of which party controls congress.
    Politically it’s tough. Enforcement focused on making immigrants suffer is popular with conservatives because of xenophobia, but enforcement focused on punishing illegal employers is going to stick in the craw of pro-business and pro-upper-class Republicans. They want the rich and powerful to have dirt cheap labor that’s too afraid of deportation to complain about exploitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    We have never tried to crack-down on the real generators of the problem, the illegal employers.
    Republicans find that unappetizing. They rely on the money of exactly the kinds of small businesses that are the biggest offenders. Picture those “Chamber of Commerce” types losing their businesses and homes because of such labor law violations. Republicans would rather waste money on symbolic gestures like a border wall than actually address the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    Politically it’s tough. Enforcement focused on making immigrants suffer is popular with conservatives because of xenophobia, but enforcement focused on punishing illegal employers is going to stick in the craw of pro-business and pro-upper-class Republicans. They want the rich and powerful to have dirt cheap labor that’s too afraid of deportation to complain about exploitation.
    Trump himself has been known to use undocumented workers. Of course they're not going to go after the employers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    Politically it’s tough. Enforcement focused on making immigrants suffer is popular with conservatives because of xenophobia, but enforcement focused on punishing illegal employers is going to stick in the craw of pro-business and pro-upper-class Republicans. They want the rich and powerful to have dirt cheap labor that’s too afraid of deportation to complain about exploitation.
    never said it was gonna be easy - as you well know. but, it must be done - like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    The expense of illegals was with us long before Trump came on the scene. It's a financial burden we don't need.
    Perhaps, a better solution would be to enforce the law regarding knowingly hiring undocumented labor. I think such enforcement would result in self-deportation costing ICE much less. But there will be a cost -increased consumer prices. Without the undocumented labor pool, wages will need to be increased to entice the legal labor pool to accept employment. Unfortunately, I don't see such enforcement happening. For perhaps varying reasons, I think both major parties welcome the cheap labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWahoo View Post
    Perhaps, a better solution would be to enforce the law regarding knowingly hiring undocumented labor. I think such enforcement would result in self-deportation costing ICE much less. But there will be a cost -increased consumer prices. Without the undocumented labor pool, wages will need to be increased to entice the legal labor pool to accept employment. Unfortunately, I don't see such enforcement happening. For perhaps varying reasons, I think both major parties welcome the cheap labor.
    and that, of course, is the problem. neither party wants to take such a stand as it might result in political suicide. it's the proper method, but I haven't seen any movement towards that end by any congress.

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