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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    You do know that our founding fathers were immigrants to this country right?
    Ms. HayJenn,

    You are incorrect. Amongst the primary founding fathers, only Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant to this country. Of the lesser known, Button Gwinnett was one of the few that was foreign born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. HayJenn,

    You are incorrect. Amongst the primary founding fathers, only Alexander Hamilton was an immigrant to this country. Of the lesser known, Button Gwinnett was one of the few that was foreign born.
    And of course at the time it was all the British Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    The question rather should be: How Much Money Are Undocumented Immigrants Paying In Taxes?

    The answer is BILLIONS!!

    There are far too many news sources to list that speak to this.
    The answer is FAR LESS than would be paid if Americans were in the 8 million jobs that illegal aliens are in. Why ? Very simple. Because 1) illegal aliens are low-wage cheap labor, and their lower wages produces lower taxes....and.....2) because many illegal aliens work off the books, and thus pay no taxes at all.

    The huge tax $$ LOSS from illegal aliens is one of the 19 Harms of Immigration on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    What you're saying is utter BS fraught with great prejudice and you know it. Who do you think is going to believe it?
    I believe it, and have known for decades that illegals receive more in welfare than they pay in taxes. They pay very little in taxes. Simple common sense can explain that. See post # 163.

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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    Of course Cato is libertarian many times outright advocating for open borders. The 'illegal aliens aren't eligible' canard belies what's really happening. The non-citizen school-aged children of these individuals go to school and eligible or not, illegal aliens still need medical care at some point and whether they're officially on Medicaid or NOT, they go to ERs and they're treated and while I am sure a few have insurance or pay for it, the vast majority just don't......they can't refuse them, es LA LEY

    And I would add they really shouldn't, what are you going to do...let somebody die from a broken leg, or bronchitis or perhaps even something more serious like a heart attack?

    'Eligible' or not.....
    The title of that law requiring ERs to treat ANYBODY who walks in, is EMTALA (Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act), and "ANYBODY" includes illegal aliens. Yet another example of illegal alien receipt of a type of taxpayer paid welfare.

    So much for the idea illegal aliens don't get government benefits$$$ (and EMTALA is a BIG ONE)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerge...tive_Labor_Act
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    Your disrespect for a founding father is disgusting. What kind of lowlife are you, to talk like that ? I guess it's one who doesn't even know what he's talking about. We just got through talking about the birthright citizenship issue here, and it came out that it will be overturned as soon as Kavanaugh (or whoever the next Trump appointee is)takes his place on the SCOTUS bench, October 1st.

    All they need to do is overrule Brennan's ludicrous footnote to Phlyer vs Doe in 1982. Not a problem.
    At least I can pay for my own internet, right?

    Like I said, Jacob M Howard can eat a bag of Johnsons. He did not regard Native Americans as worthy of voting and he was an over-all pompous jackass who allowed his wife to beat him and often wore women's clothing.

    So there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    I believe it, and have known for decades that illegals receive more in welfare than they pay in taxes. They pay very little in taxes. Simple common sense can explain that. See post # 163.
    That's a pretty stupid thing to say as the IRS allows illegals to use a tax ID number. Does the IRS know exactly how many people who use a Tax ID number are illegal aliens? No. they can't. Employers collect taxes from these people and the IRS will NOT give them a refund unless they can show proof of citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    That's a pretty stupid thing to say as the IRS allows illegals to use a tax ID number. Does the IRS know exactly how many people who use a Tax ID number are illegal aliens? No. they can't. Employers collect taxes from these people and the IRS will NOT give them a refund unless they can show proof of citizenship.
    Notwithstanding, I stand behind what I said in Post # 163, >> 100%. Just as I stand behind everything else on the list of Harms of immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    Notwithstanding, I stand behind what I said in Post # 163, >> 100%. Just as I stand behind everything else on the list of Harms of immigration.
    Great, I'll call Donald Fucking Trump RIGHT NOW and let him know that you swallow every ounce of his Nationalist, flag waving, dumbassery!

    Like I said in post #whatfuckingeverdude, neither you, nor the IRS has any true idea of how many illegals are in this country, so don't act like you do, you don't.

    Now go right ahead and try to shove me off the board by rallying your nutter-buddies! Can't wait.

    Bring it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Great, I'll call Donald Fucking Trump RIGHT NOW and let him know that you swallow every ounce of his Nationalist, flag waving, dumbassery!

    Like I said in post #whatfuckingeverdude, neither you, nor the IRS has any true idea of how many illegals are in this country, so don't act like you do, you don't.

    Now go right ahead and try to shove me off the board by rallying your nutter-buddies! Can't wait.

    Bring it.
    I have an idea how many are here. I'd say about 20-30 million, with 8 million employed. Strange that you have something against nationalism. I find it odd how people don't like that. I think it's a great thing. I'm an Army veteran, and if I weren't 72 years old, I'd sign right back up again.

    Since Trump, Pence, et al will be POTUS for years to come, it'll be a good military to be in. Couldn't say that about Obama. It was sad to see what he did to it.

    As for the flag, I do wave it - only on Memorial Day.

    Lastly - it's late, so take 2 of these >> chillpill.gif chillpill.gif

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