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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Just FYI - CIS is a staunch anti immigration group and their "stats" are bogus.
    And your evidence of this is ? Or were we just supposed to take this on faith ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    This is the difference in immigration. When immigrants came in the past it was "sink or swim". It new immigrants had that attitude (and some of them do) everyone, including them, would be better off.

    Instead far too many come to live off the system.
    True. Hit nail on head. It's been a tradition for Mexican women in 8th month of pregnancy to come here, give birth on the American side, and then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits$$$. Got to be stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    In the "old days" Americans were not too lazy to take jobs harvesting crops and other low-paying manual labor jobs. *shrug*
    So you're trying to tell us that Americans won't do jobs harvesting crops ? (even if there's decent pay)

    And for those jobs that are very low-paying, well that's a good reason to not take them. Employers need to pay more, and stop (illegally) relying on illegal aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    True. Hit nail on head. It's been a tradition for Mexican women in 8th month of pregnancy to come here, give birth on the American side, and then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits$$$. Got to be stopped.
    You are absolutely full of orange shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Illegal apologies every time.
    What in the fuck is an "illegal apology?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    So you're trying to tell us that Americans won't do jobs harvesting crops ? (even if there's decent pay)

    And for those jobs that are very low-paying, well that's a good reason to not take them. Employers need to pay more, and stop (illegally) relying on illegal aliens.
    Many do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    So you're trying to tell us that Americans won't do jobs harvesting crops ? (even if there's decent pay)

    Yeah.


    BTW: An Excerpt

    Since 1950 the U.S. labor force has roughly doubled in size, but there has been no long-run increase in unemployment. Most economic studies also find little evidence that increased immigration depresses the wages of U.S. workers. At worst, it might push down the wages of high school dropouts, but even there the effect is small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Just FYI - CIS is a staunch anti immigration group and their "stats" are bogus.
    Possible.

    Do you have contesting statistics from a viable source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    This is the difference in immigration. When immigrants came in the past it was "sink or swim". It new immigrants had that attitude (and some of them do) everyone, including them, would be better off.

    Instead far too many come to live off the system.
    That would be dreadful, if it were true. However, without forged documents, it's impossible.

    I suspect this article included reduced cost lunches for school children as part of the "welfare". They certainly aren't living in subsidized housing or collecting TANF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    That would be dreadful, if it were true. However, without forged documents, it's impossible.

    I suspect this article included reduced cost lunches for school children as part of the "welfare". They certainly aren't living in subsidized housing or collecting TANF.

    Newly arrived immigrants have always been financially less well off than are their more established counterparts. This is hardly anything new. That's why they come here. Fact is, we have fewer people on welfare today overall than we did back in 1996.
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