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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    This is the difference in immigration. When immigrants came in the past it was "sink or swim". It new immigrants had that attitude (and some of them do) everyone, including them, would be better off.

    Instead far too many come to live off the system.
    What system, we give all the money to the rich.

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    Hint: The answer to all 3 queries is FALSE.


    Are 43 Percent of All Food Stamps “Given to Illegals”?
    This claim, in circulation since at least 2012, is mathematically impossible and factually deficient.

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    Did President Trump Sign an Order Barring Undocumented Immigrants from Receiving Welfare?
    Not only has President Trump not signed any such order, undocumented immigrants are already ineligible for public benefits under the terms of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996. According to the Washington Post, the draft order, titled “Executive Order on Protecting Taxpayer Resources by Ensuring Our Immigration Laws Promote Accountability and Responsibility,” actually stated:

    Our country’s immigration laws are designed to protect American taxpayers and promote immigrant self-sufficiency. Yet households headed by aliens are much more likely than those headed by citizens to use Federal means-tested public benefits.
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    Was the ‘Law to Separate Families’ Passed in 1997 or ‘by Democrats’?
    There is no federal law mandating children and parents be separated at the border; a policy resulting in that outcome was enacted in May 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yep, in the old days they were too proud to take ANY charity, public or private.

    Now thy just go right on the taxpayer teat, and all too often stay there.

    They are coached on how to use the system, what to say...etc.
    They weren't too proud. There just wasn't any social safety net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
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    Oh I see how your going to operate here.

    If you don't like something that does not conform to your bias then it's a laughing stock of trash. Even though they have won the Pulitzer Prize (you know what this right) several times.

    I'm thinking your really not worth the effort with such a lame comeback - one I have seen a hundred times here. Maybe try to be more original???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    I know they are doing them because I seem them doing them every single day in the 5th largest economy in the world.. And all residents of North, Central or South America are AMERICANS.
    Yeah...I would quit bragging about this. California's successful economy has been built on the backs of basically slave labor. Maybe if those wealthy farmers would pay them a decent wage, they would not need public assistance. California uses immigrants for labor while they sleep in the streets and at the same time tout how strong the economy. This is an embarrassment to this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    This is the difference in immigration. When immigrants came in the past it was "sink or swim". It new immigrants had that attitude (and some of them do) everyone, including them, would be better off.

    Instead far too many come to live off the system.
    "living off the system" mostly has to do with being able to work undetected at jobs which they should not legally be able to get. your chosen party has refused to make e-verify a federal requirement for all employers (federal, state, public and private), which would end such jobs. will you do so? we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    My question was >> "(even if there's decent pay)"

    Your link says >> "Unskilled workers earn much less, which is why most locals don’t want the jobs."

    So as is often the case, they're turning the jobs down, because the pay is too low. (which, as I said > "that's a good reason to not take them."

    It might also be noted that the toughest, dirtiest, and most dangerous jobs are being done by AMERICANS, not illegal aliens (ex. firefighters, coal miners, troops in Afghanistan)

    So then, you advocate for raising the minimum wage so that agricultural jobs would be more attractive to US citizens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    the toughest, dirtiest, and most dangerous jobs are being done by AMERICANS (white mostly), not illegal aliens (ex. firefighters, coal miners, troops in Afghanistan)

    The most dangerous jobs being done by Americans are fishing and logging. The jobs you listed don't even make the Top 10, although agricultural work does.

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