Members banned from this thread: BitterPill


Page 9 of 20 FirstFirst ... 789101119 ... LastLast
Results 81 to 90 of 200
Thanks Tree107Thanks

Thread: How Many Immigrants Are On Welfare Again?

  1. #81
    Moderator HCProf's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    22,991
    Thanks
    11942

    From
    USA
    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    LA is FINALLY doing something to address that issue. Tiny homes


    To the editor: I really like this idea by L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti and the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors to build small homes in the backyards of owners who agree to take in the most stable of the 58,000 homeless people in the area. It is almost perfect. ("L.A. County wants to help build guest houses in backyards — for homeless people," April 11)

    First, it will be far cheaper than relying solely on the construction of larger supportive housing units. Second, less bureaucracy is involved. And finally, the homeless people who end up living in these neighborhood homes will more than likely feel a part of the community and maintain their new homes with pride.

    To the editor: I was pleasantly surprised to read that others have had the same idea to exploit empty spaces that exist all over Los Angeles to help solve the homelessness problem by building inexpensive add-ons.

    Currently, with a few others, I am building an experimental "tiny house" that will take a somewhat different approach to the problem. We are aiming to keep the cost of a 276-square-foot home to less than $10,000 and make it movable, but not like a trailer. Cost is the critical factor in housing homeless people.


    'Tiny homes' in backyards ? finally, an innovative solution to homelessness in L.A.
    Now that is a GREAT start. I have read articles about tiny houses and the homeless before and thought it would be a good idea. We have a lot of abandoned lots that are owned by the City resulting from forecloses. Tiny Homes would be a good idea. I agree that if a person lives around other people who care about them...it could be a life changing experience. I still think low income housing should be built...as the next step from the Tiny Home when they get on their feet. If anything, building is a job creator.
    Thanks from HayJenn

  2. #82
    Veteran Member bonehead's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    15,310
    Thanks
    5688

    From
    south
    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Add a child born on our soil, now what happens? How many kids are born here to illegals? Just in Texas alone it's staggering.
    that is the law. remember that constitution thingy including the 14th amendment? that argument is fine if you wish to change the constitution - otherwise "liberals" have nothing to do with that line of reasoning.
    Thanks from DebateDrone

  3. #83
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    26,935
    Thanks
    5080

    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    that is the law. remember that constitution thingy including the 14th amendment? that argument is fine if you wish to change the constitution - otherwise "liberals" have nothing to do with that line of reasoning.
    Doesn't change the reality of illegals & welfare. Many good intentions are exploited and abused. If illegals never made it into the country in the first place a vast multitude of problems , expenses would go away. WE have our own problems , we don't need them multiplied many times over.

  4. #84
    New Member rwb72's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2018
    Posts
    689
    Thanks
    77

    From
    Florida
    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Con artists here daily trying to propose alternate realities for political purposes. Stop the BS!

    "The 1996 reforms changed almost every aspect of non-citizen eligibility for welfare benefits. Although the provisions are exceedingly complex, a rough general principle provides useful guidance. With some exceptions, non-citizens entering the United States after August 22, 1996, the date of enactment of the welfare reform legislation, are not eligible for most welfare benefits, including Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), SSI, Medicaid, and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), until they have been in the U.S. for at least five years. Keeping this general principle in mind, a more thorough review of the 1996 provisions reveals both their complexity and breadth."

    "In determining welfare eligibility for non-citizens, two broad criteria are taken into account. The most general screen is the concept of “qualified” and “not qualified” alien. Generally, qualified aliens are non-citizens who have been permitted to reside permanently in the United States. They include legal permanent residents (LPRs), refugees, asylees, Cuban/Haitian entrants, and a few other categories. Qualified immigrants may be eligible for federal and state benefit programs that aim to help families with limited income and resources. Not qualified aliens (mostly illegal and temporary immigrants), by contrast, are ineligible for all except emergency benefits, a policy that was largely in place even before the 1996 reforms.

    https://www.brookings.edu/research/w...-non-citizens/


    "Often that debate returns to claims of undocumented immigrants drawing welfare benefits, while in the country illegally, at a massive cost to federal tax payers."
    "But PennLive wanted to know if this was accurate, or simply an empty conservative talking point. What we found follows here."

    "The network says undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. It also says most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years."

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/0...grants_qu.html

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tr...rants-welfare/
    Joke. First, many illegal aliens give birth to kids on the American side of the border, ludicrously * making them automatic US citizens. if one mother gave birth to 10 kids (American side), and all those kids later parented 10 kids of their own, that's 100 people LEGALLY receiving welfare (if they choose), all from ONE illegal alien.

    Secondly, document fraud became an industry unto itself back in the 1980s. Does anyone think this has abated any since then ?

    Exactly what constitutes "proof of legal immigration status" I remember reading how CIS was RUBBER STAMPING people through as citizens, just to keep ahead of a massive workload, without any examination of their qualification.

    Bottom line on all of this, is how apt illegal aliens are to obtain citizenship by clandestine methods. Because well, we all know illegal aliens are notorious for doing things the perfectly legal way, right ? Gag!

    * Birthright citizenship is a fallacy. The author of the 14th amendment, Jacob Howard, specifically stated that it should not cover the kids of foreigners.
    Last edited by rwb72; 8th July 2018 at 08:39 PM.

  5. #85
    Dick with my Buzz...Try DebateDrone's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    37,097
    Thanks
    32048

    From
    SWUSA
    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    * Birthright citizenship is a fallacy. The author of the 14th amendment, Jacob Howard, specifically stated that it should not cover the kids of foreigners.
    It doesn't matter what the author of the 14th amendment wanted it to mean, if it was not include it in the actual text of the amendment...then it has no bearing.

  6. #86
    Veteran Member Puzzling Evidence's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    21,856
    Thanks
    9437

    From
    Away from sharp objects>
    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Too many, too costly, makes zero sense.


    Wait–How Many Immigrants Are On Welfare Again?






    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...again-n2498018
    Complete garbage. You can not even get food stamps if you aren't a legal citizen.

  7. #87
    Veteran Member Puzzling Evidence's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    21,856
    Thanks
    9437

    From
    Away from sharp objects>
    Quote Originally Posted by rwb72 View Post
    Joke. First, many illegal aliens give birth to kids on the American side of the border, ludicrously * making them automatic US citizens. if one mother gave birth to 10 kids (American side), and all those kids later parented 10 kids of their own, that's 100 people LEGALLY receiving welfare (if they choose), all from ONE illegal alien.

    Secondly, document fraud became an industry unto itself back in the 1980s. Does anyone think this has abated any since then ?

    Exactly what constitutes "proof of legal immigration status" I remember reading how CIS was RUBBER STAMPING people through as citizens, just to keep ahead of a massive workload, without any examination of their qualification.

    Bottom line on all of this, is how apt illegal aliens are to obtain citizenship by clandestine methods. Because well, we all know illegal aliens are notorious for doing things the perfectly legal way, right ? Gag!

    * Birthright citizenship is a fallacy. The author of the 14th amendment, Jacob Howard, specifically stated that it should not cover the kids of foreigners.
    For the most part, those here illegally did not come to break the law. I find your story about the 100 illegal immigrants to be somewhat implausible.

    They are NOT entitled to any financial help, period. Maybe to be treated in an emergency room.
    Last edited by Puzzling Evidence; 9th July 2018 at 03:12 AM.
    Thanks from pragmatic

  8. #88
    Veteran Member
    Joined
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    13,302
    Thanks
    3269

    From
    California
    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Just FYI - CIS is a staunch anti immigration group and their "stats" are bogus.
    Ms. HayJenn,

    Yes, we did all notice you couldn't refute any of the TP's contentions.

  9. #89
    Member
    Joined
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    3,171
    Thanks
    701

    From
    Florida
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    In the "old days" Americans were not too lazy to take jobs harvesting crops and other low-paying manual labor jobs. *shrug*
    EVERYONE is pretty much
    coached to use the system." WTF do you think CPA's and tax attorneys do for a living?
    The funny thing is that legal immigration requires an "affidavit of support"
    to show that visa applicants have sponsorship and will not become public charges while in the United States. The sponsor must file a separate affidavit for each applicant.
    https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

    Immigration law hasn't been changed, it's just been ignored for way too long.

  10. #90
    Banned Camp
    Joined
    May 2007
    Posts
    16,819
    Thanks
    13341

    From
    Houston, Texas
    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Add a child born on our soil, now what happens? How many kids are born here to illegals? Just in Texas alone it's staggering.
    I'm a Texan and it doesn't bother me in the least.

Page 9 of 20 FirstFirst ... 789101119 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 26th July 2016, 08:09 AM
  2. Replies: 11
    Last Post: 25th November 2015, 11:05 AM
  3. Report: More than half of immigrants on welfare
    By meridian5455 in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 139
    Last Post: 5th September 2015, 06:18 AM
  4. Social Welfare vs Corporate Welfare!
    By Cotton2226 in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 55
    Last Post: 23rd November 2013, 08:36 AM
  5. Why is Corporate Welfare Good But Social Welfare Bad?
    By Devil505 in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 24th January 2010, 06:59 AM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed