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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Sometimes we are told that we must always believe the accuser.
    Who has said that? I haven't heard that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    I find the gender confusion you right-wingers suffer from to be fascinating. Trudeau is quite masculine in all the traditional ways that's measured. He's strong, fit, athletic, and shows signs of having high testosterone levels. Yet, because he's fairly liberal, people on the right still feel compelled to shove him into the "girly man" box they shove all liberal men into (even decorated military vets like John Kerry). Meanwhile, Donald Trump is a guy who has drifted far from the traditional definition of masculinity. He's a guy with absurdly dyed and styled hair, a freakish spray tan and waaay, too much makeup, as well, as the classic physique of an older guy whose estrogen/testosterone balance has gotten badly out of balance -- huge, ass, soft breasts, a chin that disappears into his waddle, and with no muscle tone. Hell, he even behaves in a stereo-typically feminine way, with his obsession with celebrities, his gossiping, his constant cat-fighting, and his addiction to social media. Yet, because he's a conservative, right wingers can't even process his gender-non-conformity.
    You're the one that seems confused here. The body language in post 97 says it all. You aren't perceptive enough to read it or you just don't want to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    And how he crosses legs with no concern of anything being crushed.
    Yes, without the womanly thighs of a Donald Trump, it's possible to have your legs close together without crushing your balls. That's something that most older American conservative males have forgotten, as they suffer the ravages of obesity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Sometimes we are told that we must always believe the accuser. On other occasions those same people demand proof of the accusation.

    Is it dependent upon who is being accused?
    I think it is more dependent on the actions and reputation of the one accused. Trump has been loud and clear on Howard Stern about his feelings of women. Mature, classy, and secure men don't have the need to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    That's a great example -- contrast his courage when it comes to immigration to the abject cowardice of Donald Trump (and, let's be honest, most American conservatives). I know it's rather old-fashioned to associate physical courage with masculinity, but that is a traditional marker of manhood, and liberals like Trudeau have it in spades, while right-wing Americans, quaking in their pumps about the supposed threat from immigrants, do not.
    Sorry, but he's wimpy. You can try to spin it any way you'd like, but it doesn't make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    The body language in post 97 says it all.
    Agreed. If one weren't clear about just how insecure Trump was about his long-faded masculinity, or how confident Trudeau is in his continuing masculinity, all one would need to see is that video to make it clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    Sorry, but he's wimpy.
    Agreed entirely. I'm not sure we've ever had as wimpy a president as Trump. I suppose I should go easy on him, since he's so very old and fat that it would be unusual indeed if he'd managed to keep his testosterone levels up. But, still, there's something off-putting about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    Agreed. If one weren't clear about just how insecure Trump was about his long-faded masculinity, or how confident Trudeau is in his continuing masculinity, all one would need to see is that video to make it clear.
    Trump's body language is that of a boorish blowhard that doesn't give a shit about what people think. Trudeau's is that of an effeminate ass-kisser that can't help but lean into and listen in rapt attention to the alpha male on the stage next to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    Agreed entirely. I'm not sure we've ever had as wimpy a president as Trump. I suppose I should go easy on him, since he's so very old and fat that it would be unusual indeed if he'd managed to keep his testosterone levels up. But, still, there's something off-putting about it.
    You're acting just like trudeau here. It's rather comical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    Trump's body language is that of a boorish blowhard
    His body language is that of someone suffering from severe erectile dysfunction and trying to overcompensate. Every gesture screams insecurity. Trudeau comes across as a boxer who knows he's got the goods so he doesn't have to posture. It's odd that you'd misread something that clear so badly. Do you find you misread things like this in your personal life, too, or is it something that only comes up in the political context?

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