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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    I'm not a big fan of McCain, but I do believe that he is basically a good man who tries to do the best, as he sees it, for our country.
    McCain redeemed himself by voting No to save the ACA. Yes,I have disagreed with him many times on his War wishes, but he is an American Patriot. Just like Kennedy. Both were womanizers when young but they matured well.

    Wish I could say the same for Trump. He just gets meaner..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Trump ... just gets meaner.
    Which is what his supporters find attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    People like John McCain, the 'neocons', will have America fighting wars forever. The neo is kind of funny there because there is nothing new about it really. They really should be called paleoconservatives because they just can't seem to get it through their heads that its not 1945, the Russians retreated and Europe is capable of defending itself. NATO accordingly retains usefulness, generally, but the US presence in NATO is simply unnecessary. NATO is obsolete -- for the US -- #outofnato

    The excess burden placed on the American people to sustain its hegenonic power comes at a great cost placing American companies at a relative disadvantage but for which America would be materially wealthier.
    This is a ridiculous comment. The only reason we have a military presence outside of the US is to stabilize US markets and US business interests outside the borders of the US.

    1940's land grabs my be over, but Russia just nipped a piece of Crimea off unopposed.


    US sends special forces to RUSSIAN BORDER as NATO is poised to strike back against Vladimir Putin’s ‘aggression’

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/253105...a-obama-putin/

    Trump wants to open the door and invite Putin in. NATO transcends the shortsightedness of one bad US leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Horsehockey. Trump is more a traitor than McCain, by far.
    When Did trump work to arm an enemy of your country?

    The other did (and took photo proof) in 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    His family sure... that guy is a traitor.
    How did McCain Sell out Canada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    When Did trump work to arm an enemy of your country?

    The other did (and took photo proof) in 2013.
    Oh, really? And what enemy was that, exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    From your link: GOP Sens. Rand Paul and Mike Lee voted against the measure, according to Defense News.

    I hereby declare Senators Rand Paul and Mike Lee to be jerks. They must not think America needs any allies.
    I consider everyone acted within their Democratic rights and the democracy process checks are working.

    If everyone had to vote one way, then there wouldn't need to hold a vote, then democracy would fail.
    Last edited by Slartibartfast; 11th July 2018 at 12:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    From your link: GOP Sens. Rand Paul and Mike Lee voted against the measure, according to Defense News.

    I hereby declare Senators Rand Paul and Mike Lee to be jerks. They must not think America needs any allies.
    No, they just want to appear to be "tough", like their idol. Skidmark Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    I'm not a big fan of McCain, but I do believe that he is basically a good man who tries to do the best, as he sees it, for our country.
    and really, most here couldn't survive 1/10th of what he endured and sacrificed while a POW.

    I know I certainly couldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    His family sure... that guy is a traitor.
    How so?
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