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    Very stable’ Trump? European leaders beg to differ

    BRUSSELS — As a NATO summit he threw into chaos wrapped up Thursday, President Donald Trump cheekily declared himself a “very stable genius.” The other world leaders present mostly begged to differ.Trump’s wildly unpredictable performance over two days in Brussels left many European leaders convinced that there is little method to the American president’s rhetorical madness, and simply no way to anticipate what he might do next.

    “Nobody knows when Trump is doing international diplomacy and when he is doing election campaigning in Montana,” Danish defense minister Claus Hjort Frederiksen said. “It is difficult to decode what policy the American president is promoting. There is a complete unpredictability in this, and one of the things you need in this alliance is predictability towards Russia." Frederiksen said NATO allies now “live with the uncertainty” that Trump “plays in a completely different way than the rest of us.”

    Trump upended the summit even before it started by unleashing a tirade against Germany during a breakfast meeting on Wednesday with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and created further upheaval by hijacking a meeting Thursday morning about Ukraine and Georgia during which he again demanded that allies quickly increase their national military spending and threatened that if they failed to do so, the U.S. could break with the alliance and start conducting security policy unilaterally, by going its “own way.” Reaction to Trump’s tirades against European allies — not just on military spending but also on trade and other issues — has focused mainly on the major powers of Germany, France and the United Kingdom. But Trump’s behavior has been just as unnerving, if not more so, to smaller allies that have long counted on Washington and shown unwavering loyalty to the Western alliance.

    But leaders who spent the first 18 months of Trump’s presidency thinking there might be a method to his chaos creation — and struggling to discern what it might be — now seem to have concluded that it’s just chaos, and that Trump himself may not understand what he’s doing. While Washington has long ago grown numb to Trump’s unrelenting mayhem, the president’s two days of undulations in Brussels, rolling between enraged criticism and boastful, happy proclamations, left many leaders feeling queasy.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-europe-716035

    No surprise here- and I doubt he really even know much about policy.

    But he is making Putin very, very, happy lately.

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    Worse by the day. Everyone was talking about his gait when walking. Neurapathy causes people to walk like Trump does. The wide pants may be because of badly swollen legs and ankles.

    Wouldn’ It be awful if Trump had candles? After the way Republicans carried on about Hillary.

    The Queen had to direct him today.
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    Trump is like a big sea gull. Flying in, crapping on everything, and flying off.


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    A newspaper in Scotland issued a scathing editorial on Friday denouncing Trump during his visit to the United Kingdom and labeling him an “appalling human being.”

    Trump is “a racist, a serial liar, and either a sexual abuser or someone who falsely brags about being one in the apparent belief that this will impress other men in a metaphorical 'locker room,’” The Scotsman wrote.

    The newspaper issued a full-page editorial and took jabs at Trump for a number of things, including defending both the protests — organized by white supremacists — and counterprotests during last year's violent Charlottesville, Va., rally; attacking NFL players protesting during the national anthem; and previously pushing the “birtherism” movement against former President Obama.

    Scottish newspaper denounces Trump as an ?appalling human being? | TheHill

    Ouch!!! I do believe he has a golf course in Scotland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    A newspaper in Scotland issued a scathing editorial on Friday denouncing Trump during his visit to the United Kingdom and labeling him an “appalling human being.”

    Trump is “a racist, a serial liar, and either a sexual abuser or someone who falsely brags about being one in the apparent belief that this will impress other men in a metaphorical 'locker room,’” The Scotsman wrote.

    The newspaper issued a full-page editorial and took jabs at Trump for a number of things, including defending both the protests — organized by white supremacists — and counterprotests during last year's violent Charlottesville, Va., rally; attacking NFL players protesting during the national anthem; and previously pushing the “birtherism” movement against former President Obama.

    Scottish newspaper denounces Trump as an ?appalling human being? | TheHill

    Ouch!!! I do believe he has a golf course in Scotland?
    Two. Lossmaking Turnberry in the southwest into which he's sunk a lot of money, with little likelihood of ever getting it back (could it be a money-laundering device?) and Balmedie, near Aberdeen in the northeast, a new course hacked out of a sensitive coastal environment with no regard for the neighbours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    BRUSSELS — As a NATO summit he threw into chaos wrapped up Thursday, President Donald Trump cheekily declared himself a “very stable genius.” The other world leaders present mostly begged to differ.Trump’s wildly unpredictable performance over two days in Brussels left many European leaders convinced that there is little method to the American president’s rhetorical madness, and simply no way to anticipate what he might do next.

    “Nobody knows when Trump is doing international diplomacy and when he is doing election campaigning in Montana,” Danish defense minister Claus Hjort Frederiksen said. “It is difficult to decode what policy the American president is promoting. There is a complete unpredictability in this, and one of the things you need in this alliance is predictability towards Russia." Frederiksen said NATO allies now “live with the uncertainty” that Trump “plays in a completely different way than the rest of us.”

    Trump upended the summit even before it started by unleashing a tirade against Germany during a breakfast meeting on Wednesday with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and created further upheaval by hijacking a meeting Thursday morning about Ukraine and Georgia during which he again demanded that allies quickly increase their national military spending and threatened that if they failed to do so, the U.S. could break with the alliance and start conducting security policy unilaterally, by going its “own way.” Reaction to Trump’s tirades against European allies — not just on military spending but also on trade and other issues — has focused mainly on the major powers of Germany, France and the United Kingdom. But Trump’s behavior has been just as unnerving, if not more so, to smaller allies that have long counted on Washington and shown unwavering loyalty to the Western alliance.

    But leaders who spent the first 18 months of Trump’s presidency thinking there might be a method to his chaos creation — and struggling to discern what it might be — now seem to have concluded that it’s just chaos, and that Trump himself may not understand what he’s doing. While Washington has long ago grown numb to Trump’s unrelenting mayhem, the president’s two days of undulations in Brussels, rolling between enraged criticism and boastful, happy proclamations, left many leaders feeling queasy.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-europe-716035

    No surprise here- and I doubt he really even know much about policy.

    But he is making Putin very, very, happy lately.
    We are in the middle of an era where the least of us have finally controlled our government, all our government, through their elected representatives. It is not pretty, it is not honorable nor is it representative of our true nature. However, for a brief time we are captive to these people and must live through it and go on as best as we can. This reminds me so much of the late 60s and early 70s, the only true difference is that we no longer feel compelled to hit the streets and reject our government en masse. What does it take to wake this generation up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    A newspaper in Scotland issued a scathing editorial on Friday denouncing Trump during his visit to the United Kingdom and labeling him an “appalling human being.”

    Trump is “a racist, a serial liar, and either a sexual abuser or someone who falsely brags about being one in the apparent belief that this will impress other men in a metaphorical 'locker room,’” The Scotsman wrote.

    The newspaper issued a full-page editorial and took jabs at Trump for a number of things, including defending both the protests — organized by white supremacists — and counterprotests during last year's violent Charlottesville, Va., rally; attacking NFL players protesting during the national anthem; and previously pushing the “birtherism” movement against former President Obama.

    Scottish newspaper denounces Trump as an ?appalling human being? | TheHill

    Ouch!!! I do believe he has a golf course in Scotland?
    yeah trump calling those players' mothers "bitches" was very twit ghetto trashy of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Wouldn’ It be awful if Trump had candles?
    Oil lamps are so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Worse by the day. Everyone was talking about his gait when walking. Neurapathy causes people to walk like Trump does. The wide pants may be because of badly swollen legs and ankles.

    Wouldn’ It be awful if Trump had candles? After the way Republicans carried on about Hillary.

    The Queen had to direct him today.
    The spell checker let you down. I think you mean cankles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangecat View Post
    Oil lamps are so much better.
    There you go jumping on a spell check error and thinking it's funny. Har Har!
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