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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Perhaps it's only the Republicans who want to attack Iran? I normally wouldn't expect Rand to be on-board with that, but he seems to have lost any backbone that he might have ever had when it comes to being a Trump supplicant.
    I've noticed he's very quick to make a stand only when he's bound to lose. I doubt his sincerity. If the Republicans actually need his vote, he'll give it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No shit! Is there something we want?
    Better question is probably is there something they want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No shit! Is there something we want?
    You, probably not. Certain segments of Republicans and Trumpists in America? Sure.

    In my opinion, many of them see Russia as this last bastion of real white supremacy, unbridled by political correctness and such, a place ruled, truly, still, by white men

    The Kremlin, who also wants to use these people in America for own purposes, certainly presents that image to them also, in propaganda targeted at them.

    Russia, in fact, is a much more diverse place than most Westerners realize

    But, of course the government rarely get talks about that, when appealing to far right racists in America and Europe.

    They are even playing savior to persecuted white people from South Africa, as I wrote before: White South Africans to resettle to RUSSIA???

    Modern Russia appeals to racists and birthers and such scum in the US today, much as old Soviet Union did to American Communists... It is sad and disgusting, but, it is what it is. That's what and who they have to work with, today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    I dunno? What are the Russians good for, aside from providing black market financing?
    They have influence in the ME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    They have influence in the ME.

    Not broadly, although they do have some influence with Syria and Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Not broadly, although they do have some influence with Syria and Iran.
    I would think our politicians wouldn't be so mum about it if that was what they "needed dialog to discuss" (fucking stupid) but I wonder if this is about selling weapons or something. Or a deal to let them finish Syria off, and cut a deal with Assad for his oil? Not because we need it so much, but to screw Europe out of it.

    I don't know. The fact they are being so vague makes me wonder all kinds of things. Surely Trump would be bragging in advance if this were a "deal" he was looking to make that would be good for US, meaning US the people. The only reason I can think of that we might be canoodling with the Russians would be something to do with war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Better question is probably is there something they want?
    We still have sanctions in place against Russia, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    We still have sanctions in place against Russia, I think.
    And what could they be promising to do for us if we called those off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You, probably not. Certain segments of Republicans and Trumpists in America? Sure.

    In my opinion, many of them see Russia as this last bastion of real white supremacy, unbridled by political correctness and such, a place ruled, truly, still, by white men

    The Kremlin, who also wants to use these people in America for own purposes, certainly presents that image to them also, in propaganda targeted at them.

    Russia, in fact, is a much more diverse place than most Westerners realize

    But, of course the government rarely get talks about that, when appealing to far right racists in America and Europe.

    They are even playing savior to persecuted white people from South Africa, as I wrote before: White South Africans to resettle to RUSSIA???

    Modern Russia appeals to racists and birthers and such scum in the US today, much as old Soviet Union did to American Communists... It is sad and disgusting, but, it is what it is. That's what and who they have to work with, today...
    To what end, though? Surely they don't want American ex-pats to move to Russia? Do they want American investments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    To what end, though? Surely they don't want American ex-pats to move to Russia? Do they want American investments?

    Maybe they want to market themselves as the Great White Homeland?
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