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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Can anyone tell me what the US is supposed to be getting out of all this palling around the Russians? I'm just not seeing how this benefits the country.

    Or is this just a cover for our reps to get oligarchs to promise to fund future campaigns? And if so, in return for what, exactly?
    I do not have the slightest idea. Are there enough American idiots who think Russia manipulating our elections to back them? Much like the 8 Senators who curtsied and bowed to the Russians. Traitors all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Can anyone tell me what the US is supposed to be getting out of all this palling around the Russians? I'm just not seeing how this benefits the country.

    Or is this just a cover for our reps to get oligarchs to promise to fund future campaigns? And if so, in return for what, exactly?
    I figure it either has to be for future financing, or maybe the potential for the oligarchs to fund their lobbyists or places where they go to work after their political careers are over. Some of those Bain capitol type places have a lot of overseas financing and lots of politicians go to work at those places after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    No shit! Is there something we want?
    Oil? Resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    To what end, though? Surely they don't want American ex-pats to move to Russia? Do they want American investments?
    Maybe they are negotiating to bring Russians here to the US to live? Immigration? We have a huge and growing group of Russians moving here to New England just over the last 3 years. Never had many before. Now we have terms like "little Moscow" for areas in towns where they congregate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Maybe they are negotiating to bring Russians here to the US to live? Immigration? We have a huge and growing group of Russians moving here to New England just over the last 3 years. Never had many before. Now we have terms like "little Moscow" for areas in towns where they congregate.

    They probably would vote Republican. And, as the Mormons say, they are a white and a delightsome people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Perhaps it's only the Republicans who want to attack Iran? I normally wouldn't expect Rand to be on-board with that, but he seems to have lost any backbone that he might have ever had when it comes to being a Trump supplicant.
    Rand has a backbone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Perhaps it's only the Republicans who want to attack Iran? I normally wouldn't expect Rand to be on-board with that, but he seems to have lost any backbone that he might have ever had when it comes to being a Trump supplicant.
    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Maybe they are negotiating to bring Russians here to the US to live? Immigration? We have a huge and growing group of Russians moving here to New England just over the last 3 years. Never had many before. Now we have terms like "little Moscow" for areas in towns where they congregate.
    The Russians are coming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    The Russians are coming?
    They are already here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    What did Soviet Union use Commie sympathizers in the West for? All kinds of nefarious activities: espionage, industrial and other sabotage, even outright terrorism at times...

    It's not a joke. Some of these Westerners they recruit, are given military training and combat experience.

    Norwegian and other Scandinavian neo-Nazis have fought alongside Russian mercenaries in Syria

    and Italian fascists - in Ukraine

    I wrote about it here: Norwegians fought for RUSSIA in Syria?

    I believe the big picture is, these folks are then secreted back to their homelands in Europe, where they become, essentially, pro-Russian sleeper cells, they have weapons and everything ready for them, hidden away, and they will come out and strike if ever there is a big conflict between Europe and Russia. As I said in that thread, remember that Breivik fellow who killed dozens of people in Norway? Now, think 1000 such guys, what they can do, what chaos they can create in their respective countries...

    Not sure if there is recruitment of Americans to that extent, but... Something to keep an eye out for, certainly...
    But why? Do you think Putin wants to revive the Cold War?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    But why? Do you think Putin wants to revive the Cold War?

    Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire. All he needs from the US is for us to stand back and passively watch him do it.
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