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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The problem with such dictators is that they cannot be removed through the democratic process. Certainly, the people have to want the change in order to effect it, but trying to vote out Duterte would quite likely result in more deaths rather than a new government.

    They need to start their own revolution, which would not be inappropriate for us to support. Our country has a history of being interfered with by other countries - notably France, without whose help we likely would not have won our revolution in the late 18th century.

    There is a difference, though, between interference to promote democracy, and interference to subvert it. Russian interference was a subversion of the democratic process, not the support of it. Putin is an autocrat, and Trump aspires to be like him and other autocrats.
    Fair enough.

    Frankly, I am gobsmacked by our country's overthrow of Allende, a democratically elected leader, and going back further, our overthrow of Mosaddegh, another democratically elected leader, yet we maintain the fiction we are genuinely pro-democracy and with a relatively straight face.

    That disgusts me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Fair enough.

    Frankly, I am gobsmacked by our country's overthrow of Allende, a democratically elected leader, and going back further, our overthrow of Mosaddegh, another democratically elected leader, yet we maintain the fiction we are genuinely pro-democracy and with a relatively straight face.

    That disgusts me.
    The U.S. is a misery merchant overseas. As to Chile and all of South America, all we EVER cared about was oppressing and exterminating any pro-Chinese or pro-Soviet Union sentiment.

    And, I suppose, exploiting the continent's natural resources.

    The extent of U.S. aggression is still being revealed, as to the 20th century.

    http://https://foreignpolicy.com/201...as-overthrown/

    It's not just the leaders we assassinated, etc. It's also the horrendous dictators we propped up. Like Papa Doc and Baby Doc in Haiti. Between them, they ruled from 1957 to 1986 -- almost forty years of obscene corruption, oppression and murders of Haitians.

    But hey, at least cane sugar prices in the U.S. stayed low, so we were good with this.

    These corrupt, anti-human policies were adopted and enforced by Democrats as well as Republicans. We have a larger empire than ever existed on the planet before, and we are the most horrible overlords in human history.

    And very few Americans have any idea of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Madleline's core beliefs make mine tattered.

    True story.

    Madeline has many core beliefs. She believes that the US should effect regime change on a whim, and simultaneously curses the US for having effected regime changes in the past.

    Give it a minute. She'll be back on the "Regime Change Now!!!" bandwagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    The US should be "helping to remove Duerte"?

    But the Russians should not have interfered in our elections?

    OK when we interfere in the affairs of other countries, but bad when the Russians do it to us?

    This sounds like a situation that the people of the Philippines should take care of...WITHOUT our "help".
    Any of our Presidents publically threaten to execute citizens w/o a trial lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Madleline's core beliefs make mine tattered.

    True story.
    Aw, no they don't. You are a good egg, BP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Any of our Presidents publically threaten to execute citizens w/o a trial lately?
    Anything, absolutely ANYTHING, to protect Trump or even any of his pals. huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Any of our Presidents publically threaten to execute citizens w/o a trial lately?
    Yes. Trump did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Anything, absolutely ANYTHING, to protect Trump or even any of his pals. huh?
    Trump's "pals" include some of the worst dictators on earth, from King bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, to Kim Jong-un to Erdogan to Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Deurte is one of Trump's heros, so his doings are of interest to Americans. His rant de jure announces his latest plans to create a spy ring which will watch cops and, if they commit any crime of any degree of importsnce, kill the cops without a trial.

    "Addressing the policemen’s families, Duterte said: “If these sons of bitches die, don’t come to us yelling ‘human rights, due process’, because I warned you already.”

    http://https://www.theguardian.com/w...olice-officers

    The U.S. should be helping to remove Duerte and protect human rights in the Philippines, but Trump is enchanted by his hard man act so we won't.

    It's despicable, IMO.

    Your thoughts?
    Duterte Harry is known as The Punisher for a reason

    Last edited by Tedminator; 9th August 2018 at 04:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Any of our Presidents publically threaten to execute citizens w/o a trial lately?
    Just Trump, as far as I can remember.

    On 5th Avenue, at that!

    However, I think that Duterte may actually be serious...

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