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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I, of course, don't know the specifics about your experience and the motives of the person who rolled his eyes at you. But there could be another explanation. Around here it's not uncommon for bartenders and restaurant employees to get kickbacks from drivers. It might have been that you just caused your restaurant server to lose a couple bucks because you wanted to take the subway.
    Thats possible. I do see signs in restaurants and bars for Uber. Maybe they do give a little kickback for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    idk how that would work... i understand this in regards to taxi / cab calls done by the bar / restaurant.. but the uber concept is that the END customer is calling the uber from their phone.. how would a bartender call an uber for you, someone he knows.. and makes that feed into your app , so your cc is charged for the ride ?

    Edit: And, on the topic of paying kickbacks.. half this thread is about questioning that uber drivers can make a living from their job.. and do not even make minimum wage.. but now here you say that an uber driver can afford 50-100$ per week in kickbacks ? That doesn't fit into that narrative.
    Practically it works when someone receives a tip that a customer is ready to call so the driver knows where to be when the search begins.

    We've shown that the average driver makes 13 and change, that doesn't mean they all make that little, it doesn't mean they all make that much, that's how averages work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    That's just ridiculous.

    It was never a perfect or even a good system, but the idea made sense. Limit the number of permits in order to keep the system sustainable.

    Now everyone wants to argue its merits from an end user point of view, which is a completely absurd way to approach the issue of service.

    If suddenly cheeseburgers were available on every corner obviously it would be awesome for a guy who enjoys eating $1 cheeseburgers, but it may make it difficult to regulate certain things about the cheeseburger making process.
    Cheeseburger ARE available at every corner (at least in Manhattan), and MC Donalds/ Burger King ARE selling them for 1$ a pop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    My friends son is a Uber driver and it makes his car payment plus spending money. He is in college and drives mostly on the weekends. I have never had a problem with Uber and the drivers I have experienced have been a blast and very nice. I felt comfortable. I can't say that about taking a cab.
    I rode with a realtor that would drive for Uber on return trips related to his job.

    Knew another guy that would Uber most nights until he made a hundred bucks that was going toward some toy he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    Cheeseburger ARE available at every corner (at least in Manhattan), and MC Donalds/ Burger King ARE selling them for 1$ a pop.
    Yeah

    By a licensed, regulated industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I can see this as a stop-gap measure while the city moves to fix mass transit. In the long run, if those fixes are doable, then the demand should drop, anyway. In the meantime, this allows a bunch of drivers on the road to provide reliable transportation, just not an unlimited amount. Limiting the number of vehicles is not the fix, but the provision that should allow the real fixes to occur.
    Why don't they fix the subways first and then cap Uber and Lyft? I mean besides them not being able to fix the subways for decades and de Blasio being superhumanly bad at being mayor. But doing it the way they have seems designed to inconvenience the citizens of New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Why don't they fix the subways first and then cap Uber and Lyft? I mean besides them not being able to fix the subways for decades and de Blasio being superhumanly bad at being mayor. But doing it the way they have seems designed to inconvenience the citizens of New York.
    It's a saturated market, capping them won't negatively impact your ability to use them service

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Lower East Side.

    You disagree that "the price can easily get over $40"? You need to get out more. It can.


    Huh? Prices are easily over 40 bucks. My office is in chelsea but I have parking. When I do drive into the city and not use a car service, prices are easily 60+


    When I grew up on the lower east side, you could park for free. lol

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    During the great depression, taxi drivers clogged the streets of New York. Getting a taxi was cheep and easy, but it caused enormous problems. This is why there came to be a medallion system for taxi's in the first place. Uber has caused more problems in this country than anyone knows. It has caused an over-all drop in wages and along with that, homelessness, repossessions and foreclosures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    It's a saturated market, capping them won't negatively impact your ability to use them service
    The freeze on licenses is effectively a big reduction in the number of ride share instead of a cap since most just drive for a few months.

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