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    BREAK'g: Judge orders admin. to TURN AROUND plane with mother and child deportees

    WOW!! SOMEONE WITH BALLS, I'll tell you what WILL happen, if it happens again or has the potential to happen and airlines are ordered to turn around, they will tell the administration, WE WON'T CARRY THEM!


    Judge orders plane carrying deported mother and child turned around, blocks more removals

    The court learned that the Trump administration had put a mother and a daughter who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit on a flight to Central America.

    by Suzanne Gamboa and Jacob Soboroff / Aug.09.2018 / 3:02 PM ET / Updated 4:08 PM ET / 3:02 PM ET / Updated 4:08 PM ET

    In a federal courtroom in Washington on Thursday, a judge heard about something the Trump administration had just done that clearly angered him. The government, he learned, had deported an immigrant mother and daughter who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit the judge was hearing over asylum restrictions.
    So the judge did something highly unusual: He demanded the administration turn around the plane carrying the plaintiffs to Central America and bring them back to the United States. And he ordered the government to stop removing plaintiffs in the case from the country who are seeking protection from gang and domestic violence.

    The U.S. district judge, Emmet Sullivan, of the District of Columbia, was presiding over a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and Center for Gender and Refugee Studies on Tuesday. He had earlier been assured by the government in open court that no plaintiffs in the suit would be deported before midnight Friday.

    The plaintiffs on the plane are identified in the lawsuit as Carmen and her minor daughter J.A.C.F., although Carmen is a pseudonym, an attorney said. "Carmen and her daughter are right now somewhere in the air between Texas and El Salvador," ACLU lead attorney in the case Jennifer Chang Newell told NBC News....

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/judge-orders-plane-carrying-deported-mother-child-turned-around-blocks-n899311

    ADDED: A Department of Homeland Security official said the agency is "complying with the court’s order, and upon arrival in El Salvador, the plaintiffs will not disembark and will be promptly returned to the United States."


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    yes, this is huge. But, perfectly understanding. Judges don't like being lied to. The DOJ was making a mockery of the court. So, the judge had to take extraordinary actions. Kudos to this judge. I mean, these are individuals that were parties in this lawsuit? That's just giving the judge the finger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    yes, this is huge. But, perfectly understanding. Judges don't like being lied to. The DOJ was making a mockery of the court. So, the judge had to take extraordinary actions. Kudos to this judge. I mean, these are individuals that were parties in this lawsuit? That's just giving the judge the finger.
    I haven't heard about this specific an action but I applaud him. This case was in the courts already and yet again the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION kidnapped the litigants. Best analogy I can come up with with with short notice is if in the middle of a divorce and CUSTODY case--IN THE COURTs--the cops showed up and took the kids to one or other of the parents. Of course this has INTERNATIONAL implications.
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    The judge ordered the government to turn the plane around and bring the asylum-seeking mother and child back to the US.

    He said that if the situation wasn't fixed he would consider contempt proceedings — starting with the attorney general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    WOW!! SOMEONE WITH BALLS, I'll tell you what WILL happen, if it happens again or has the potential to happen and airlines are ordered to turn around, they will tell the administration, WE WON'T CARRY THEM!


    Judge orders plane carrying deported mother and child turned around, blocks more removals

    The court learned that the Trump administration had put a mother and a daughter who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit on a flight to Central America.

    by Suzanne Gamboa and Jacob Soboroff / Aug.09.2018 / 3:02 PM ET / Updated 4:08 PM ET / 3:02 PM ET / Updated 4:08 PM ET

    In a federal courtroom in Washington on Thursday, a judge heard about something the Trump administration had just done that clearly angered him. The government, he learned, had deported an immigrant mother and daughter who are plaintiffs in the lawsuit the judge was hearing over asylum restrictions.
    So the judge did something highly unusual: He demanded the administration turn around the plane carrying the plaintiffs to Central America and bring them back to the United States. And he ordered the government to stop removing plaintiffs in the case from the country who are seeking protection from gang and domestic violence.

    The U.S. district judge, Emmet Sullivan, of the District of Columbia, was presiding over a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and Center for Gender and Refugee Studies on Tuesday. He had earlier been assured by the government in open court that no plaintiffs in the suit would be deported before midnight Friday.

    The plaintiffs on the plane are identified in the lawsuit as Carmen and her minor daughter J.A.C.F., although Carmen is a pseudonym, an attorney said. "Carmen and her daughter are right now somewhere in the air between Texas and El Salvador," ACLU lead attorney in the case Jennifer Chang Newell told NBC News....

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/judge-orders-plane-carrying-deported-mother-child-turned-around-blocks-n899311

    ADDED: A Department of Homeland Security official said the agency is "complying with the court’s order, and upon arrival in El Salvador, the plaintiffs will not disembark and will be promptly returned to the United States."


    What the hell is... Center for Gender and Refugee Studies



    • Technical Assistance & Training: offering in-person workshops, and webinars for attorneys, government officials, human rights advocates, social service providers, and student on asylum law in general as well as a range of specifc issues that arise in gender-based asylum claims.
    • Tracking & Decision Analysis: tracking and monitoring the outcome of gender asylum cases nationwide at all levels of immigration adjudication in order to assist attorneys in individual cases as well as to identify decision-making trends that inform our advocacy efforts, maintaining an asylum database housing unpublished briefs and decisions available nowhere else.
    • United Way of Central Kentucky
    • Policy Advocacy: working to create a refugee regime that aligns with international human rights norms and protects those who are most vulnerable by educating lawmakers, legal and refugee communities, and the general public about policy proposals that affect refugees and asylum seekers.


      So they work to get these people brought here. with emphasis on GLBT
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    What the hell is... Center for Gender and Refugee Studies
    Why should you care? Do you not have a problem with what the government did, putting these people on the plane before they had their day in court, denying them due process of law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    yes, this is huge. But, perfectly understanding. Judges don't like being lied to. The DOJ was making a mockery of the court. So, the judge had to take extraordinary actions. Kudos to this judge. I mean, these are individuals that were parties in this lawsuit? That's just giving the judge the finger.
    The Judge also threatened Sessions with contempt of Court!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    I haven't heard about this specific an action but I applaud him. This case was in the courts already and yet again the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION kidnapped the litigants. Best analogy I can come up with with with short notice is if in the middle of a divorce and CUSTODY case--IN THE COURTs--the cops showed up and took the kids to one or other of the parents. Of course this has INTERNATIONAL implications.
    ya know, I have no idea what it's like. I have to listen to federal prosecutors and legal experts. As a layman it seems like this administration thinks they're above the law. I really have no idea if others government agencies being sued in court pull these kinds of stunts? They're just so "in your face" about everything with this administration. A federal judge threatening to hold the AG of the United States in contempt of court? When has that ever happened before? I really have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdzeyez View Post
    Why should you care? Do you not have a problem with what the government did, putting these people on the plane before they had their day in court, denying them due process of law?
    Or why should he give a shit about men who beat the shit out of their wives or give a shit about inevitable rape of girls or having their genitalia mutilated or taken as sex slaves? Why should women or girls be allowed to, at the very least, seek asylum from GENDER TERROR? Who do they think they are?
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