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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Same for the Soviets. High body count with them. Even before WW2.
    Take note we destroyed the fucking Nazi threat BEFORE turning on the Soviets and becoming involved in the Cold War.
    Your "logic" is laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    /yawn

    Lee was not a traitor. He simply remain loyal to his state - which VOTED to secede.

    And Lee was instrumental in fostering peace between the North and South in the wake of Civil War.

    His statue is fine and should stay where it is. Anyone who lets a statue offend them needs to grow a pair or find more important things to worry about.

    I also don't see Americans living in the south whining about Abraham Lincoln statues or demanding we take them down. We have a history. It's long, imperfect and complicated just like every other nation on earth. It's time for people to grow up and stop acting like a child and face up to that reality. Hiding from our history is not the answer. And VA has every right to honor Lee. He was a decent and honorable man who acted in extreme times with more dignity than anyone on this board would.
    Robert E. Lee certainly WAS a traitor. You need to look up the definition of treason, which happens to be right in the Constitution. Lee is a man who took up arms against his own country. That's the TEXTBOOK definition of treason. It's also the Constitution definition of treason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Robert E. Lee certainly WAS a traitor.
    No he certainly WASN'T.

    As I just told you - his state VOTED to secede from the Union. He simply remained loyal to his state - where the people who lived there democratically voted to leave the union.

    If you think that's treason you have no idea what treason is.

    I'm sick of the demonization of Lee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Wait. We've still got people pretending that Robert E. Lee wasn't a traitor?

    LOL... That's cute.
    Nah, what's cute is watching all this ignorance about Lee on display.

    People really need to learn to read a history book before they talk about things they have no clue about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    No he certainly WASN'T.

    As I just told you - his state VOTED to secede from the Union. He simply remained loyal to his state - where the people who lived there democratically voted to leave the union.

    If you think that's treason you have no idea what treason is.

    I'm sick of the demonization of Lee.
    It is IN the Constitution, Jeremy. You are literally arguing against the Constitution, Section 3 of Article III:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articl...s_Constitution

    From the link:

    Section 3 defines treason and its punishment.

    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

    Did Robert E. Lee levy war against the United States, Jeremy? He most certainly the fuck did. Case closed. He committed TREASON. That makes him a traitor, whether you like it or not. States do not have the 'right' to simply secede from the Union, Jeremy. They don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    It is IN the Constitution, Jeremy. You are literally arguing against the Constitution, Section 3 of Article III:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articl...s_Constitution
    Sorry but there was nothing in the constitution about secession, Leroy. This isn't the mention the constitution was irrelevant anyway once Virginia voted to secede. The confederacy had its own constitution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Nah, what's cute is watching all this ignorance about Lee on display.

    People really need to learn to read a history book before they talk about things they have no clue about...
    Agreed. those who continue to insist that Robert E Lee wasn't a traitor to his country do need to pick up a history book. Nice that we find Common Ground now and then.
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    The next thing you know we're going to get one of those idiotic arguments that Robert E Lee was somehow against slavery too.

    LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Agreed. those who continue to insist that Robert E Lee wasn't a traitor to his country do need to pick up a history book. Nice that we find Common Ground now and then.
    Nah, you're the one who needs to pick up a history book.

    Virginia voted to secede from the Union - at which point it was no longer part of the United States.

    This isn't that complicated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    The next thing you know we're going to get one of those idiotic arguments that Robert E Lee was somehow against slavery too.

    LMAO
    LMAO

    The only idiotic arguments I'm seeing is the crap you're writing.

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