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    katiegrrl0

    Lawsuit claims Boy Scouts coverup of sex abuse

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    The Boy Scouts of America has long kept an extensive archive of secret documents that chronicle the sexual abuse of young boys by Scout leaders over the years.
    The "perversion files," a nickname the Boy Scouts are said to have used for the documents, have rarely been seen by the public, but that could change in the coming weeks in a Portland, Ore., courtroom.
    The attorney for a man who was allegedly molested in the 1980s by a Scout leader has obtained about 1,000 Boy Scouts sex files and is expected to release some of them at a trial that began Wednesday. The lawyer says the files show the organization has covered up abuse for decades.
    Here are the Boy Scouts. according to this we really know the meaning of that term. Has anyone had kids in scouting and how did that go?

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    Re: Lawsuit claims Boy Scouts coverup of sex abuse

    It's a common tactic to demand files that don't exist. In this case, they're implying the documents are more than they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferris View Post
    It's a common tactic to demand files that don't exist.
    How do we know they don't exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    How do we know they don't exist?
    This is the equivalent of saying "show us the cover-up." It's just showmanship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferris View Post
    This is the equivalent of saying "show us the cover-up." It's just showmanship.
    If someone had not asked that question of the Catholic church what would you know today about that? How many of the pedophiles would still be in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If someone had not asked that question of the Catholic church what would you know today about that? How many of the pedophiles would still be in place?
    The BSA really isn't that hierarchical. It's mostly a bunch of local orgs. False analogy.

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    katiegrrl0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferris View Post
    The BSA really isn't that hierarchical. It's mostly a bunch of local orgs. False analogy.
    This is the way investigative journalism is done. You ask a question and see where it goes. This is the question and if there was wrong doing it can be found. the church is a perfect example. A local church with a local crowd the BSA is the same way. The BSA has a hierarchy as well. They do keep records of reported problems as well. They may act faster than the church did but they could well be hiding a truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    This is the way investigative journalism is done. You ask a question and see where it goes. This is the question and if there was wrong doing it can be found. the church is a perfect example. A local church with a local crowd the BSA is the same way. The BSA has a hierarchy as well. They do keep records of reported problems as well. They may act faster than the church did but they could well be hiding a truth.
    Doesn't make it any less irresponsible to make baseless assumptions about the activities of the organization itself. I'd lump that as the same type of behavior as you see from the ACORN crowd. Just wait for actual evidence before claiming an organization as opposed to individuals committed any crimes.

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    katiegrrl0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferris View Post
    Doesn't make it any less irresponsible to make baseless assumptions about the activities of the organization itself. I'd lump that as the same type of behavior as you see from the ACORN crowd. Just wait for actual evidence before claiming an organization as opposed to individuals committed any crimes.
    It is not baseless if there is a lawsuit there needs to be something to it. The court will decide that won't they, This was reported by the Washington Post they are not a fly by night blog.

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    Re: Lawsuit claims Boy Scouts coverup of sex abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    It is not baseless if there is a lawsuit there needs to be something to it.
    At this point in the case, that's really not true yet.

    The court will decide that won't they
    Yep, but there have been several of these cases over the years. I don't see where requesting documents that if the ever existed, probably don't now, for the umpteenth time, is going to make any difference.

    These types of cases make the news all the time. It doesn't mean the cases have any validity to them.

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