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Thread: Bachmann preaches - this is an unfortunate video

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    Bachmann preaches - this is an unfortunate video

    This video will probably make its way into the GE if Bachmann gets nominated.

    There are a number of things about this video that are extremely disturbing to me, but not for the reasons the left may want to bring forth.

    Apparently, the warm-up band for Bachmann was called the "White People Soul Band". Now, this for me has no real connotation and actually sounds quite innocent. Michelle started her stage appearance (0:06 into the video) first by saying "Thank you, Jesus" and then by calling out to the audience: "Who likes white people?". Here is the video. WATCH:



    Ok, it is obvious to me that whan she asked "Who likes white people?", she meant the band, but even from the reaction of the audience, you can hear a not so subtle undertone. Either way, it is extremely awkward and probably not the smartest thing to do when you know your opponent in the GE will be a black man. Plus, the person who put this video on youtube, a certain "OnKneesForJesus3", made sure to put an overtitle right as Mrs. Bachmann asked "Who likes white people". So, you can imagine how this video, cut as it is, could have a real negative effect on non-white voters.

    I am not sure if OnKneesForJesus3 is for real or is trying to spoof right wing christians, but that is beside the point. He has an account on youtube and the video of Bachmann is obviously real.

    The "Thank you, Jesus" part does not bother me at all. It is a personal moment and I think every person should be entitled to these moments, both public and private.

    However, when a person who is running for President of the United States and gave her credentials as such then says "I am here to talk to you tonight about the creator of the Universe, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ", then I have a problem. A problem with separation of Church and State.

    She then gave testimony about how she came to Christ and then used the story of Jonathan vs. the Philistines in order to encourage those in the crowd to give their lives to Jesus. I believe it is called "witnessing" in the christian faith.

    I do not know 100% if this was a public rally or a church event, but the banner behind her says "Spirit Midwest / Christian Music Festival, which was on August 5th and 6th in West Des Moines, IA). But I know from her speech that it was in Iowa and I will assume this was a church type event.

    I also completely respect her 1st amendment right to speak about anything she wishes.

    But I am not sure that this kind of mixing of politics and religion will help her one bit with those Americans who are not christian. This in combination with her comments about gays and non-christians could lead one to believe that she only sees a white, christian America as the only America. And I do not believe this helps the Republican Party to grow. If anything, I think it will shrink the Republican Party even more.

    Now, let's contrast this with another presidential candidate out of the past who also spoke to a religious gathering:



    THAT IS A STARK CONTRAST.

    Does anyone here think that a candidate just 40 years ago would have had a chance, had he or she spoken as Bachmann does?

    Feel free to speak your mind, but be polite, please.
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    Kennedy, even with all his flaws was a great, wise man and great president.

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    I'm sure she was referring to the band, nothing to see here.

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    I was a young kid when Kennedy was rfunning for president but I do recall that his "relogion" even if he was carefull not to faunt it was a big factor. There were people who actually beleived that Kennedy would be subservient to the Pope if he got elected. Today we have the birtehrs well then we had the Pope-pers and people said stupid shity llike "the Pope is waiting in a submarine undedr the Chesapek Bay waiting to take over the White House once Kennedy is elected". One will say that someone needs to be really stupid to beleive something like that. Well how many assholes believe that Obama's mother planted an announcement of his birth in Hawaii retroactively becasue she wanted him to become POTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    I'm sure she was referring to the band, nothing to see here.
    Well of course she was but not a smart move when you are running for POTUS.

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    The problem isn't the "White People" remark it was her religious rants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    The problem isn't the "White People" remark it was her religious rants.
    Actually my problem with her is that she mixes religion with politicas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Bandera View Post
    Actually my problem with her is that she mixes religion with politicas.
    That's my point. She is using religion to get the votes of the gullible religious types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    I'm sure she was referring to the band, nothing to see here.
    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    The problem isn't the "White People" remark it was her religious rants.
    I agree with both of you and think I made that pretty clear in the OP. However, the timing of it is really not good and of course, you really have to question the judgement of someone who says something like this knowing that if nominated, she will be up against a black incumbent.

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