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    Really, freedoms, ggod grief there is a fucking genocide in Libya, biu in an Orwellian world thats freedom.

    BTW the Egyptian "government" said they were shoot their new protesters.

    Nice job were doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelr View Post
    Really, freedoms, ggod grief there is a fucking genocide in Libya, biu in an Orwellian world thats freedom.

    BTW the Egyptian "government" said they were shoot their new protesters.

    Nice job were doing.
    I don't know what you're talking about.
    There's no evidence to support these wild claims.
    All I'm doing is pointing out the elation of the Libyan people at all the newfound freedoms they've found since ousting the previous oppressive authoritarian regime. It cannot be denied.
    The entire revolt was a repudiation of Muslim extremism and groups like Al Qaeda. The victory put to lie all the propaganda from Al Qaeda.
    The same is true in Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitiboy View Post
    I don't know what you're talking about.
    There's no evidence to support these wild claims.
    All I'm doing is pointing out the elation of the Libyan people at all the newfound freedoms they've found since ousting the previous oppressive authoritarian regime. It cannot be denied.
    The entire revolt was a repudiation of Muslim extremism and groups like Al Qaeda. The victory put to lie all the propaganda from Al Qaeda.
    The same is true in Egypt.
    Just a matter of time before a new string of Walmarts are constructed, eh?
    Smells like 'Fweedum"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitiboy View Post
    I don't know what you're talking about.
    There's no evidence to support these wild claims.
    All I'm doing is pointing out the elation of the Libyan people at all the newfound freedoms they've found since ousting the previous oppressive authoritarian regime. It cannot be denied.
    The entire revolt was a repudiation of Muslim extremism and groups like Al Qaeda. The victory put to lie all the propaganda from Al Qaeda.
    The same is true in Egypt.
    There is no evidence to support these claims? I will admit that the peaceful protesters killed a lot of western media, but things still leak out. You US backed AQ are slaughtering black Libyans. It is genocide.

    Libyan rebel ethnic cleansing and lynching of black people

    Libyans Turn Wrath on Dark-Skinned Migrants But they are not migrants, they are Libyans.

    Hell you people act as this is over, it ain't no matter what the scum media reports.

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    What's going on in Libya is the product of the combination of chaos, ignorance, and the aftermath of the Gaddafi forces' heavy use of black mercenaries during the war. Unfortunately, as some here are oh too eager to demonstrate, it provides an excellent propaganda opportunity for Gaddafi and his sympathizers.

    This article effectively illustrates what's going on. Various rebel groups, who are by no means under the reliable control of the NTC, have been rounding up African migrant workers and accusing them of serving as mercenaries. It notes that there is generally tends to be no evidence of this.

    The NTC which has demonstrated that it's run by some pretty capable people as the course of this war has demonstrated, recognizes that in the eyes of their allies in the West, this is a particular no-no, and they're really desperately trying to contain the behavior, or they know they risk a loss of legitimacy.

    And because of the situation on the ground, their success has been limited. There's lots of understandable hatred going on here, and not much in place to prevent it. Hopefully that will change, but of course no one should question that NATO should pressure the NTC in every possible way to promote that change.

    The accusations of genocide are false. It would not be possible for word of such activity to go unreported by the media, unless one is prepared to believe that the vast amount of international and varied media attention focused on Libya is part of a giant cabal. The people who fail that test are incredible groups with an axe to grind against NATO and Gaddafi's propaganda mills. It is not possible to cover up anything approaching genocide in the modern world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    What's going on in Libya is the product of the combination of chaos, ignorance, and the aftermath of the Gaddafi forces' heavy use of black mercenaries during the war. Unfortunately, as some here are oh too eager to demonstrate, it provides an excellent propaganda opportunity for Gaddafi and his sympathizers.

    This article effectively illustrates what's going on. Various rebel groups, who are by no means under the reliable control of the NTC, have been rounding up African migrant workers and accusing them of serving as mercenaries. It notes that there is generally tends to be no evidence of this.

    The NTC which has demonstrated that it's run by some pretty capable people as the course of this war has demonstrated, recognizes that in the eyes of their allies in the West, this is a particular no-no, and they're really desperately trying to contain the behavior, or they know they risk a loss of legitimacy.

    And because of the situation on the ground, their success has been limited. There's lots of understandable hatred going on here, and not much in place to prevent it. Hopefully that will change, but of course no one should question that NATO should pressure the NTC in every possible way to promote that change.

    The accusations of genocide are false. It would not be possible for word of such activity to go unreported by the media, unless one is prepared to believe that the vast amount of international and varied media attention focused on Libya is part of a giant cabal. The people who fail that test are incredible groups with an axe to grind against NATO and Gaddafi's propaganda mills. It is not possible to cover up anything approaching genocide in the modern world.
    You can spin it anyway you want, but it is genocide due to the US backed AQ, or rebels if you want to stick to that, and I don't need a blog to tell me the truth.

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    Your casual use of the term as if it is something that could be supported by a blog undermines you as much as is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Your casual use of the term as if it is something that could be supported by a blog undermines you as much as is necessary.
    Look I know that is is American to support genocide and AQ these days, but I ain't doing it. I am pretty displeased anyone would.

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    Yes because it is, after all, general American convention to support genocide and Al Qaeda. Why, I just attended a lynching yesterday, hosted by none other than Ayman Al-Zawahiri himself. It was fantastic and in keeping with the finest traditions of this country.

    Just keep talking, Mike. You're doing my job for me.

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