Ha ha - something fun from conspiracy-land: Rogue U.S. General Arrested for Activating Special Forces Teams; Ignoring Libya Stand-Down Order | Politics
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Makes sense. Department of State. Relationship with the UN ambassador. Relationship with the CIA (not always friendly, but most of the time cooperative to a point). Not always on Panetta's good side. Carney..... dunno.
One of the key question is who gave the stand-down orders. Once we know that, this thing will begin to unravel.
The PJ Tatler » AC-130U Gunship was On-Scene in Benghazi, Obama Admin Refused to Let It Fire (Updated)
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Navy commander sent home amid investigation - U.S. NewsSAN DIEGO -- A local Navy commander is returning to his home port in Washington state midway through his deployment following an investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment, Navy officials confirmed.
The commander in question is Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette, commander of the San Diego-based USS Mobile Bay and two North Island-based helicopter squadrons that are deployed with the Stennis Strike Group.
Hm. More interesting by the minute.
TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? - Washington TimesUpdated 10/29) Is an American General losing his job for trying to save the Americans besieged in Benghazi? This is the latest potential wrinkle in the growing scandal surrounding the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack that left four men dead and President Obama scrambling for a coherent explanation.
On October 18, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta appeared unexpectedly at an otherwise unrelated briefing on “Efforts to Enhance the Financial Health of the Force." News organizations and CSPAN were told beforehand there was no news value to the event and gave it scant coverage. In his brief remarks Mr. Panetta said, "Today I am very pleased to announce that President Obama will nominate General David Rodriguez to succeed General Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.” This came as a surprise to many, since General Ham had only been in the position for a year and a half. The General is a very well regarded officer who made AFRICOM into a true Combatant Command after the ineffective leadership of his predecessor, General William E. "Kip" Ward. Later, word circulated informally that General Ham was scheduled to rotate out in March 2013 anyway, but according to Joint doctrine, "the tour length for combatant commanders and Defense agency directors is three years." Some assumed that he was leaving for unspecified personal reasons.
Ha ha - "highly unlikely", they say. But they don't actually deny it.
Debunking the case of General Carter Ham - National Intelligence | Examiner.com
So, maybe it's worse than just "stand down".
Maybe the guy who refused got arrested, and now he's being put out to pasture.
This really doesn't smell good. We got one general and one subordinate, and that's only after three weeks!
How about this for a wild-ass shot in the dark:
The reason they didn't send in the helicopters?
Um... guess what was in those weapons lockers Stevens was supposed to deal with?
You guessed it! Shoulder fired surface to air missiles!
The whole thing reminds of the movie Brazil. Things are blowing up left and right but the tangled hum of government whirs on and the insiders pretend it's all normal, even though they all hate it.
"Sam Lowry (Jonathan Pryce) is a low-level government employee, who has frequent daydreams of saving a beautiful maiden. One day he is assigned the task of trying to rectify an error caused by a fly getting jammed in a printer, which caused it to misprint a file, resulting in the incarceration and death during interrogation of Mr. Archibald Buttle instead of the suspected "terrorist", Archibald Tuttle. When Sam visits Buttle's widow, he discovers Jill Layton (Kim Greist), the upstairs neighbour of the Buttles, and is astonished to see that she has the face of the woman from his recurring dreams. Jill is trying to help Mrs. Buttle find out what happened to her husband, but has become sick of dealing with the bureaucracy. Unbeknownst to her, she is now considered a terrorist friend of Tuttle for attempting to report the mistake of Buttle's arrest in Tuttle's place to a bureaucracy that would not admit such an error. When Sam tries to approach her, she is very cautious and avoids giving Sam full details, worried the government will track her down. During this time, Sam comes in contact with the real Tuttle (Robert De Niro), a renegade air conditioning specialist who once worked for the government but left due to his dislike of paperwork."
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We'll probably be in popcorn phase for a few more days, then we'll start getting the information trickle from the second wave.
These scandals are really fun to watch developing. I've made a bit of a science of the study. They all go the same way, more or less, except for the occasional really odd one - but yeah, first wave, retrench, second wave, retrench, third wave.... and by the time the third wave is in progress, it's usually pretty clear whether the whole thing will sink or swim. In the third wave it either takes off or collapses entirely. I'd say we're in early second wave right now, so plenty of time to contemplate and ruminate and test the waters.