Members banned from this thread: jimsouth


Page 38 of 44 FirstFirst ... 283637383940 ... LastLast
Results 371 to 380 of 432
Thanks Tree230Thanks

Thread: This Iran Deal is a Farce.

  1. #371
    Off to greener pastures
    Joined
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    14,795
    Thanks
    3476

    From
    Dead
    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrary View Post
    The real bigotry is co-opting the entire jewish ethnic group and paint them as zionists.
    Yeah, I have a Jewish friend that considers Zionists a bunch of murderous criminals. LOL!

  2. #372
    Senior Member Kontrary's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    5,712
    Thanks
    3018

    From
    Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Then you did not read the article
    No you dont keep up...this has long since been debunked.

    Lost in Translation ? FAIR: Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting

    Mideast expert and blogger Juan Cole (Informed Comment, 5/3/06) noted long ago that Iranian leaders never called for Israel to be “wiped off the map,” but a recent admission by an Israeli official to that effect suggests that there is hope this information might finally penetrate the corporate media bubble.

    On Al Jazeera English (4/14/12), Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor agreed with interviewer Teymoor Nabili’s suggestion that the supposed remarks were never actually made. Iranian leaders, Meridor said,
    come basically ideologically, religiously, with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive. They didn’t say “we’ll wipe it out,” you are right, but [that] it will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor, it should be removed.

    The Persian phrase Meridor was asked about was used by Ahmadinejad in a 2005 speech in which neither maps nor wiping were mentioned. As Cole explained (Informed Comment, 5/3/06):
    The actual quote, which comes from an old speech of Khomeini, does not imply military action, or killing anyone at all.... The phrase is almost metaphysical. He quoted Khomeini that “the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time.” It is in fact probably a reference to some phrase in a medieval Persian poem. It is not about tanks.

    Even the right-wing pro-Israel translation service MEMRI translated the Ahmadine-jad comment as “this regime that is occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time” (CounterPunch, 8/28/06).
    Thanks from Invayne

  3. #373
    Off to greener pastures
    Joined
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    14,795
    Thanks
    3476

    From
    Dead

  4. #374
    Senior Member Kontrary's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    5,712
    Thanks
    3018

    From
    Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Yeah, I have a Jewish friend that considers Zionists a bunch of murderous criminals. LOL!
    There are parts of my own family that are jewish....but they arent zionists nor are they Israeli citizens. The fact that someone may assume they are zionist just because they are jewish is insulting.
    Thanks from Invayne and anonymous

  5. #375
    Senior Member Kontrary's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    5,712
    Thanks
    3018

    From
    Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You mean when it was a British territory? There was no Palestinian country that governed itself. The British gave it to the Jews
    The west dont get to write the policies of other nations..they dont belong to the brits. It belongs to the people who have been living there for centuries and did NOTHING at all to justify losing the right to live and exist on the lands they were born to. You expect them to just die...disappear.... cease to exist....for what? To accommodate euro jews who want their lands? Why in the world would they agree to that?

  6. #376
    Council Member Ian Jeffrey's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    13,487
    Thanks
    4578

    From
    The Outer Limits
    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    By your logic, the native Americans have the right to take back North and South America from the Europeans.
    The same logic that would allow Arabs to take Israel from the Jews - or back from them.

  7. #377
    Senior Member Kontrary's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    5,712
    Thanks
    3018

    From
    Sweden
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The same logic that would allow Arabs to take Israel from the Jews - or back from them.
    Not so, there is a way to help rectify the situation while being pragmatic about current realities. It could start by Israel STOPPING the building of new settlements, this is still an ONGOING process...more land is taken from Palestinains daily. This is not "done" and in the past, its ONGOING, its CURRENT. This is an active and ongoing ethnic cleansing and its not any less heinous than when its done to any other group, including when it was done to Jews.

    When do we demand the US and Israel to recognize the Palestinians right to exist?
    Thanks from anonymous

  8. #378
    Love ya,,mean it. anonymous's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    10,507
    Thanks
    1474

    From
    Passing Through
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Liberals are against Israel. Look how Obama ignores them
    What? Did they not get their financial aid or something? Obama ignores everyone and pretty much does what he wants to do.

  9. #379
    Love ya,,mean it. anonymous's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    10,507
    Thanks
    1474

    From
    Passing Through
    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You mean truth. Obama did nothing to get a pastor released from Iran. Obama did everything for Iran and the rest of us get more fear because nothing was done to stop Iran
    What would you prefer he do? You keep talking about this pastor as if you know him. Do you?

  10. #380
    Love ya,,mean it. anonymous's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    10,507
    Thanks
    1474

    From
    Passing Through
    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    To hear them tell it they were protecting themselves from those people,, whose homes they had just stolen.
    Thanks from Kontrary and Invayne

Page 38 of 44 FirstFirst ... 283637383940 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed