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    Politifacts Lies of the Year 2013

    Politifact has once again rated the "Pants on Fire" lie of the Year. This year the award goes to "If you like your health insurance you can keep it." Here's the full list.

    And the top lie of 2013 goes to? ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Politifact has once again rated the "Pants on Fire" lie of the Year. This year the award goes to "If you like your health insurance you can keep it." Here's the full list.

    And the top lie of 2013 goes to? ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
    3 of the top 4 are from the usual RWNJ.
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    2 - Ted Cruz: Congress gets exception to Obamacare
    3 - Michele Bachmann: IRS health care database
    4 - Ann Coulter: Docs won't accept Obamacare

    Fascinating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    2 - Ted Cruz: Congress gets exception to Obamacare
    3 - Michele Bachmann: IRS health care database
    4 - Ann Coulter: Docs won't accept Obamacare

    Fascinating!
    Whatever are we all going to do without Michele Bachmann? Maybe she will get a job as a news analyst on FOX. Shes just too good to let slide into oblivion!
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    That will likely become the "Lie of the Decade."

    Perhaps, even, the "Lie of the Century...."

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    Obama's statements about consumers keeping plans they like was a very big error that was multiplied by the ACA roll out fiasco. I noticed that Obsama's negatives are dropping and his positives are rising in the last week or so.

    I wonder if Obama's misstatements rise to the level of Saddam was behind 9/11 or if Iraq is not invaded, the smoking gun may be mushroom clouds over American cities?

    There's a difference between the consequences caused by the misstatements of Obama and those made during the Iraq war wind up, isn't there? The difference is one of consequence and intention. Obama failed to articulate a simple nuanced message that some plans will be cancelled because they don't meet ACA standards. Or in the case of California, where Anethem Blue Shield tricked consumers into making changes to their plans that caused them to be ineligible for grandfathered plans. In the case of Saddam, 9/11 and WMD, the intention was to mislead and deceive the public in order to conduct a war that the administration and most of congress knew was predicated on dubious cherry picked intel.

    Hello memory hole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMCX1 View Post
    Obama's statements about plans consumers keeping plans they like was a very big error that was multiplied by the ACA roll out fiasco. I noticed that Obsama's negatives are dropping and his positives are rising in the last week or so.

    I wonder if Obama's misstatements rise to the level of Saddam was behind 9/11 or if Iraq is not invaded, the smoking gun may be mushroom clouds over American cities?

    There's a difference between the consequences caused by the misstatements of Obama and those made during the Iraq war wind up, isn't there? The difference is one of consequence and intention. Obama failed to articulate a simple nuanced message that some plans will be cancelled because they don't meet ACA standards. Or in the case of California, where Anethem Blue Shield tricked consumers into making changes to their plans that caused them to be ineligible for grandfathered plans. In the case of Saddam, 9/11 and WMD, the intention was to mislead and deceive the public in order to conduct a war that the administration and most of congress knew was predicated on dubious cherry picked intel.

    Hello memory hole?
    Problem is Obama TRUSTED and still puts TRUST in the insurance companies to do the right thing. These very same companies that put us in the predicament we are in. Now there are grumblings in a couple of states where some insurance companies are billing customers IN FULL for the entire year, something no one seems sure is illegal or was even considered under the ACA. Too many people must pay monthly premiums to afford it, not all of it up front. It makes our officials continually look bad for implementing and then mandating something without knowing what tricks the insurance companies will pull yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    That will likely become the "Lie of the Decade."

    Perhaps, even, the "Lie of the Century...."
    The lies behind the Iraq War and the impact it had on our lives will no doubt be the "Lie of the Century", and the most costly.

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    Obama's "keep your plan" campaign gets whopping 59 % of the votes... #2 comes in at 8 %.
    So i think we have a definite winner.

    Overall, the top 10 Pants on fire 2013, 8 were from the right wing.
    That is very telling to me, yes, but at the same time, from a research perspective, very possible that liberal minds do follow Politicfact more than conservatives, and vote more on those polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HadEnough2 View Post
    The lies behind the Iraq War and the impact it had on our lives will no doubt be the "Lie of the Century", and the most costly.
    If you say so.

    I have noticed, that Liberals often "lie" about what they call "lies" from George Bush. Then, they turn around to call the lies of Glorious Organizer..."misstatements...."

    TRUTH.

    Do Liberals understand the actual meaning of that concept?

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