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    Do "nothing" to stop Trump

    Obama won in 2008, in large part, because the housing bubble burst and the economy collapsed under Bush. Some here predict that Trump’s rush to deregulate will create similar financial instability and another collapse they will result in the ousting of Republican politicians, maybe as early as 2018.

    But liberals, if they choose, can make this a sure thing by doing “nothing”: not buying new cars, not buying anything they don’t need, not being tourists, not eating out, not going to movies or concerts. In short, doing nothing would collapse our consumer-fixated economy and put capitalism in its final death throes. The Republicans and Trump would be hapless against this sabotage of “making American great again.” What would be their response? Laws requiring people to spend their money?

    Liberals could name their price to end the boycott: single-payer health care, the end of the Electoral College, a new government-operated bank that would be a true “bank of America,” low-cost federally-funded wireless access, etc.

    There are only three real levers of power: votes, money and guns. Votes are not working. You should try the second before the third becomes the option of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    Obama won in 2008, in large part, because the housing bubble burst and the economy collapsed under Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    Obama won in 2008, in large part, because the housing bubble burst and the economy collapsed under Bush. Some here predict that Trump’s rush to deregulate will create similar financial instability and another collapse they will result in the ousting of Republican politicians, maybe as early as 2018.

    But liberals, if they choose, can make this a sure thing by doing “nothing”: not buying new cars, not buying anything they don’t need, not being tourists, not eating out, not going to movies or concerts. In short, doing nothing would collapse our consumer-fixated economy and put capitalism in its final death throes. The Republicans and Trump would be hapless against this sabotage of “making American great again.” What would be their response? Laws requiring people to spend their money?

    Liberals could name their price to end the boycott: single-payer health care, the end of the Electoral College, a new government-operated bank that would be a true “bank of America,” low-cost federally-funded wireless access, etc.

    There are only three real levers of power: votes, money and guns. Votes are not working. You should try the second before the third becomes the option of choice.
    Chances of that?

    Zero.

    Only zero because there's not a lower number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Ya think? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    Obama won in 2008, in large part, because the housing bubble burst and the economy collapsed under Bush. Some here predict that Trump’s rush to deregulate will create similar financial instability and another collapse they will result in the ousting of Republican politicians, maybe as early as 2018.

    But liberals, if they choose, can make this a sure thing by doing “nothing”: not buying new cars, not buying anything they don’t need, not being tourists, not eating out, not going to movies or concerts. In short, doing nothing would collapse our consumer-fixated economy and put capitalism in its final death throes. The Republicans and Trump would be hapless against this sabotage of “making American great again.” What would be their response? Laws requiring people to spend their money?

    Liberals could name their price to end the boycott: single-payer health care, the end of the Electoral College, a new government-operated bank that would be a true “bank of America,” low-cost federally-funded wireless access, etc.

    There are only three real levers of power: votes, money and guns. Votes are not working. You should try the second before the third becomes the option of choice.
    Actually Dodd Frank will do nothing to prevent the same type of collapse Dodd Frank did nothing to prevent what happened in 2008 where Franks' boyfriend at Fannie Mae help created bundled Mortgage Securities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Actually Dodd Frank will do nothing to prevent the same type of collapse Dodd Frank did nothing to prevent what happened in 2008 where Franks' boyfriend at Fannie Mae help created bundled Mortgage Securities.
    Wrong...again..

    Private lenders made up the bulk of the home loans that went belly up due to no regulations on them

    Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis | McClatchy DC

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/reale...=.dc9486b91c06

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Wrong...again..

    Private lenders made up the bulk of the home loans that went belly up due to no regulations on them

    Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis | McClatchy DC

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/reale...=.dc9486b91c06
    You will never get tenneessee to accept facts like that!
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    Janet Yellen defended the Federal Reserve’s oversight of Wall Street in the years since the financial crisis, arguing banks are safer, have kept lending and remain profitable, despite claims by the Trump administration and Republican lawmakers that regulations have crippled economic growth.

    In congressional testimony Tuesday, the Fed chair disputed the notion that the Dodd-Frank Act has made U.S. lenders less competitive, stating that they are in far better shape than European rivals. Yellen also defended the Fed’s annual assessments of whether the banks can survive severe economic slumps, saying that stress tests have been key to boosting financial stability. And she said she’s seen little data substantiating assertions that small businesses can’t get loans, a frequent Republican attack on Dodd-Frank.

    Yellen’s comments come as Republicans and President Donald Trump set their sights on rules that they blame for paralyzing the U.S. economy. Trump, who has called Dodd-Frank a “disaster,” signed an executive order earlier this month instructing the Treasury Department to examine financial rules and file a report on its findings within 120 days.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...anks-now-safer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    Obama won in 2008, in large part, because the housing bubble burst and the economy collapsed under Bush. Some here predict that Trump’s rush to deregulate will create similar financial instability and another collapse they will result in the ousting of Republican politicians, maybe as early as 2018.

    But liberals, if they choose, can make this a sure thing by doing “nothing”: not buying new cars, not buying anything they don’t need, not being tourists, not eating out, not going to movies or concerts. In short, doing nothing would collapse our consumer-fixated economy and put capitalism in its final death throes. The Republicans and Trump would be hapless against this sabotage of “making American great again.” What would be their response? Laws requiring people to spend their money?

    Liberals could name their price to end the boycott: single-payer health care, the end of the Electoral College, a new government-operated bank that would be a true “bank of America,” low-cost federally-funded wireless access, etc.

    There are only three real levers of power: votes, money and guns. Votes are not working. You should try the second before the third becomes the option of choice.
    No violent threat there, is there? I wouldn't rule out the US turning into a Yugoslavia with all it's misfortune but I suspect we'll end up more like Brazil. Might as well relax and enjoy the ride instead of going crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlGuy View Post
    No violent threat there, is there? I wouldn't rule out the US turning into a Yugoslavia with all it's misfortune but I suspect we'll end up more like Brazil. Might as well relax and enjoy the ride instead of going crazy.
    Reminds me of that disgusting expression about rape if you can't avoid it relax and enjoy

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