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    Can't wait until they get those Robots in the Coal Mines.
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    Our local Panera Bread put in those order/pay kiosks and swore publicly it wouldn't replace humans. Now they have laid off half the staff. Older people seem angry but the younger people love the convenience of not having to wait or talk to people!
    We are getting a Panera Bread in my hometown. They are going to have kiosk order/pay and app order/pay. I am eagerly awaiting it opening. Think of all the tasks that you can now do without talking to a human. I ordered from Chick Fil A the other day, and literally the only interaction I had to have was walking up to the counter when my name was called.

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    I think this is great news, provided that all this technology is used to liberate people from having to do rote tasks like flipping burgers (as though that's all you do when you work in a fast food place) instead of liberating owners from paying people.

    Bill Gates has a pretty good solution to this problem:

    The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates

    Clearly he doesn't mean that the robot itself should pay taxes, but the owner should. After all, the taxes are to take some of the wealth created by the worker and use it to pay for the things that the government has to pay for. The robot is creating value, so why should the owner get out of those obligations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    We are getting a Panera Bread in my hometown. They are going to have kiosk order/pay and app order/pay. I am eagerly awaiting it opening. Think of all the tasks that you can now do without talking to a human. I ordered from Chick Fil A the other day, and literally the only interaction I had to have was walking up to the counter when my name was called.
    If you want a fun social experiment, sit back and watch some of the self order kiosks or self checkouts. There is a massive generation gap between who uses them and who doesn't. Our local bank now has a $5 per transaction if you go to a teller for anything that can be done via the ATM or mobile banking. Seniors are taking a hit on that big time as they still prefer tellers. A lot of places are also offering deals or fees if you mail a bill vs pay online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Imagine they will have more than one. Restaurants have redundancy after redundancy.
    Perhaps - but humans are also more versatile. The human flipping the burgers probably knows how to handle the french-fry station. And if more burgers need to be brought out from the walk-in freezer, the same guy who flips the burgers can walk into the deep-freeze, retrieve a new box, open it, transfer the burgers to the smaller freezer, throw out the plastic wrap, and discard the box (collapsing it properly).

    Robots may be capable of doing one or two things very efficiently, but only a human can perform several dozen different tasks as required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Because when Flippy breaks, you're immediately fucked if you don't have trained human staff. Customers aren't going to wait around while waiting for the Flippy repairman show up and get Flippy running again.
    No. Flipping burgers isn't skilled labor. If the machine breaks down, I don't think everyone will just stand there scratching their heads wondering how to get the frozen burgers to turn brown and tasty. They'll just cook them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I think this is great news, provided that all this technology is used to liberate people from having to do rote tasks like flipping burgers (as though that's all you do when you work in a fast food place) instead of liberating owners from paying people.

    Bill Gates has a pretty good solution to this problem:

    The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates

    Clearly he doesn't mean that the robot itself should pay taxes, but the owner should. After all, the taxes are to take some of the wealth created by the worker and use it to pay for the things that the government has to pay for. The robot is creating value, so why should the owner get out of those obligations?
    Bill Gates isn't thinking this through. Computers, and software like Microsoft Office put THOUSANDS of secretaries, accountants, and record-keepers out of work. Thanks to computers, and office software, a guy with a spreadsheet can perform complex accounting faster than a roomful of finance personnel. While computers and software lack much in the way of moving parts, they still represent automation in the same manner as robots. And I don't think that computer servers should be "taxed."
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    No. Flipping burgers isn't skilled labor. If the machine breaks down, I don't think everyone will just stand there scratching their heads wondering how to get the frozen burgers to turn brown and tasty. They'll just cook them.
    So... You'll need human staff, PLUS Flippy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    It's also worth noting that the article is a bit misleading:

    "Burger-flipping robot replaces humans on first day at work" - This suggests that at least one employee lost his job the day the robot started. Nothing in the article indicates this happened.



    Much less impressive. I worked at a Burger King restaurant back around 1987. We didn't have a "grill" per se. It was a grilling oven, with chain-conveyor endlessly cycling through it. You put the frozen burgers in one end, and they came out fully cooked on the other end. If the machine was capable of dropping the burger onto a bun, it would perform all the functions of the robot described in the article.

    I'd like to know whether the robot is capable of adapting. For example, I expect that all of the burgers it cooks are the same size. If you give it a burger that's 20% smaller, will it be smart enough to make an inquiry? If I give it a burger that was frozen to a much colder temperature, requiring more cooking time, is it looking at the burger to see when it is done? Or is it blindly relying on a timer?

    Again - it sounds like a novelty.
    McDonalds had a clam shell, you didn't really flip anything, when the lid lifted after its time you took the meat out.

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    I agree with Djinn, Flippy is a novelty and there is nothing new about any of it's tech. I minored in robotics in engineering school and we had robotic arms that were just as advanced twenty years ago. If those burgers slide a few inches in any direction Flippy will flip out, it is only capable of following a program, it's just an expensive spatula.
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