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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Nope...I have empathy for every one, like an old school democrat. Not just a few. This is why we are seeing more independents now. I would just like to see them express the same empathy for poor rural Americans as they do for refugees and people who commit crime. If a person chooses to work in a field where health hazards are a risk...it is their right to do so. It is the same for healthcare workers...if they contract HIV from a patient due to a exposure...should they be blamed for their choice of profession? Lots of jobs have risk built into them and they are valued contributors to the tax system.
    I think it's a lot more sympathetic to have robots do jobs that will give people black lung. Also, I think it's incumbent upon people to come up with a fair remuneration for extracting resources from the ground, especially when they do it with minimal employees. I don't care if the companies "own" the mountains. The coal in the ground belongs to everyone. The runoff and deforestation and polluted lakes nearby will belong to everyone too. The consequences of burning the coal will belong to everyone—so the coal belongs to everyone. Companies that extract it owe recompense to everyone for the privilege of letting them extract it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Overall, coal mining jobs have been dropping for a century. Ironically, the loss of coal-mining during the Obama era was slight (about 3000 coal jobs lost) compared with the Reagan administration (about 90,000 coal jobs lost).
    Yes, great information. But the point that was thrown out was that there was nothing that politicians could do to bring back coal jobs. I believe that to be very incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I think this is great news, provided that all this technology is used to liberate people from having to do rote tasks like flipping burgers (as though that's all you do when you work in a fast food place) instead of liberating owners from paying people.

    Bill Gates has a pretty good solution to this problem:

    The robot that takes your job should pay taxes, says Bill Gates

    Clearly he doesn't mean that the robot itself should pay taxes, but the owner should. After all, the taxes are to take some of the wealth created by the worker and use it to pay for the things that the government has to pay for. The robot is creating value, so why should the owner get out of those obligations?
    No, that's a TERRIBLE idea. The Economist had a very good article just a week or so ago explaining WHY it is a terrible idea, though even they missed one of the major reasons why it is a terrible idea. Any nation that started taxing robots would very QUICKLY fall behind other nations in the technology race. If we want to GUARANTEE that Japan and South Korea will dominate the robotics industry, then yes, America should start taxing robots. Yikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    You don't have self-cleaning bathrooms yet? What is this, 2017?
    Those are coming. Give us another ten years....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    No, that's a TERRIBLE idea. The Economist had a very good article just a week or so ago explaining WHY it is a terrible idea, though even they missed one of the major reasons why it is a terrible idea. Any nation that started taxing robots would very QUICKLY fall behind other nations in the technology race. If we want to GUARANTEE that Japan and South Korea will dominate the robotics industry, then yes, America should start taxing robots. Yikes.
    Of course, of course but the robot's manufacture is income to the manufscturer and the robot, in the course of its useful life, is taxed because it generayes income for its owner, the robot's expense is deductible of course, amortized over whatever period the law allows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    No politician can bring back coal mining jobs, no more than they can bring back horses and buggies. You seem to think that lying to unemployed coal mine workers equals "sympathy". It doesn't.
    But Donald Trump PROMISED in his big speech to Congress that "Dying industries will come ROARING back to life!!". I think EVERY American should be asking for a brand spanking new TYPEWRITER under the Christmas tree this year! Maybe even ask for one of the fancy ELECTRIC ones!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    But Donald Trump PROMISED in his big speech to Congress that "Dying industries will come ROARING back to life!!". I think EVERY American should be asking for a brand spanking new TYPEWRITER under the Christmas tree this year! Maybe even ask for one of the fancy ELECTRIC ones!!
    Only if they run on coal fired electricity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    This is the cost of increasing minimum wages.
    Automation is a GOOD thing. We should WELCOME it. After all, mechanization and automation is how America got rich, in the FIRST place. I fear that MANY Americans have utterly forgotten this. In YOUR case, I suspect it is because you actually WANT America to become technologically backwards.

    Higher minimum wages lead to more automation? From where I sit, that is an EXCELLENT argument for RAISING the minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    No, that's a TERRIBLE idea. The Economist had a very good article just a week or so ago explaining WHY it is a terrible idea, though even they missed one of the major reasons why it is a terrible idea. Any nation that started taxing robots would very QUICKLY fall behind other nations in the technology race. If we want to GUARANTEE that Japan and South Korea will dominate the robotics industry, then yes, America should start taxing robots. Yikes.
    The knee jerk answer to taxing the increasing profits rich people are amassing. I guess we're just doomed to get increasingly screwed and have to fight each other for the smaller and smaller crumbs that fall through the cracks. Better not offend bossman or he'll take his ball somewhere else and make us starve until we let him come back and screw us more.

    You have a better idea?

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