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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Robotic scientists are having no success trying to teach them to make art, or humor, or music. They cannot create.

    I think we need a WPA-style arts program, and pay people to make art. Also the government needs to make markets for artists, use art in public spaces, etc.
    There actually ARE robots that can play musical instruments, and computer programs that can create music 'in the style of Bach', or of Mozart, or any other composer you care to name. But computers do not yet exhibit anything like a sense of humor. That may be the LAST barrier for them to overcome. Remember how much trouble the android Data had with humor on Star Trek? Yet he could play the violin better than ANY human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    There actually ARE robots that can play musical instruments, and computer programs that can create music 'in the style of Bach', or of Mozart, or any other composer you care to name. But computers do not yet exhibit anything like a sense of humor. That may be the LAST barrier for them to overcome. Remember how much trouble the android Data had with humor on Star Trek? Yet he could play the violin better than ANY human.
    Question: Professional musicians make a distinction between playing an instrument with technical virtuosity and another, higher levels of play that involves the musician's emotions, tastes, and individual take on the piece. Many musicians reach a level of technical virtuosity (they can play all the notes, exactly right, at whatever tempo you choose) but can't move to that next level, which is really the key for soloists.

    Do computers really play a cello better than Yo-Yo Ma or the violin better than Perleman? Or is it simply their technical virtuosity you admire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Question: Professional musicians make a distinction between playing an instrument with technical virtuosity and another, higher levels of play that involves the musician's emotions, tastes, and individual take on the piece. Many musicians reach a level of technical virtuosity (they can play all the notes, exactly right, at whatever tempo you choose) but can't move to that next level, which is really the key for soloists.

    Do computers really play a cello better than Yo-Yo Ma or the violin better than Perleman? Or is it simply their technical virtuosity you admire?
    Well, I did NOT say we had robots TODAY that could play a cello better than Yo-Yo Ma. We don't. Even Data was mostly known for his, yes, technical virtuosity, and the fact that he could play for hours without ever making a single mistake.
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    Maybe Zuckerberg should have just told them they should steal their ideas from the best and leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    In other words.. JUST DO IT.. Don't suck off the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Maybe Zuckerberg should have just told them they should steal their ideas from the best and leave it at that.
    I'd accept the accuracy of your point, but not the substance of it. You like to discredit people based on one thing they did. You're an exacting and angry God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    He'll be dead within the year. Either some bizarre illness or some patsy asshole lone gunman. Send a billionaire out into the world peddling progressive ideas like the New Deal, noblesse oblige, social contracts, etc???

    Oh, they're definitely going to shoot his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Maybe Zuckerberg should have just told them they should steal their ideas from the best and leave it at that.
    Same with Bill Gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    I'd accept the accuracy of your point, but not the substance of it. You like to discredit people based on one thing they did. You're an exacting and angry God.
    His big achievement is based on an idea he literally stole from the Winkelvoss twins. They paid Zuckerberg to write code for a social networking site for Harvard graduates. He took the money they paid him to work for them, their idea and the source code that was supposed to be their property, disappeared and then created Facebook with it.
    Otherwise, is Zuckerberg getting honorary degrees and giving speeches to graduates without Facebook?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    His big achievement is based on an idea he literally stole from the Winkelvoss twins. They paid Zuckerberg to write code for a social networking site for Harvard graduates. He took the money they paid him to work for them, their idea and the source code that was supposed to be their property, disappeared and then created Facebook with it.
    Otherwise, is Zuckerberg getting honorary degrees and giving speeches to graduates without Facebook?
    Of course not. But they got paid. And their vision for the project was never Facebook. It was something else altogether more exclusive and chi-chi
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