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    Trump Cannot Stop The Revolution!

    We are still in the early stages of the solar power revolution.

    The price of solar power has been PLUMMETING. At an exponential rate. And will continue to do so. The technology is somewhat similar to silicon computer chips, after all. We had Moore's Law in the computer chip industry, and they have the analogous Swanson Effect in photo-voltaics.

    Solar power already beats any fossil fuels on price in many parts of the world.

    In just a few years, there will be a MAD RUSH in the world to and towards solar power. Because it will be dirt-cheap.

    The long era of energy scarcity that began with the first oil price shock in 1973 will be over.

    Mr. Trump CANNOT stop that.

    He might want to. He might want to, very BADLY, and Vladimir Putin would CERTAINLY like to stop the solar energy revolution in its tracks. But they can't. It is inexorable.

    Trump might indeed be able to get Congress to SLASH all research funding for solar power.

    But so what? If so, that will simply cede leadership in this rapidly growing industry to China.

    I have no idea why America would want to do that. Perhaps the enemies of solar power who are posters here would care to explain why they want America to lose the solar power industry to China.

    And we should also ask them how many of America's OTHER high-tech industries they would be willing to surrender to China. The aerospace industry? The computer chip industry? The computer software industry? The pharmaceutical industry? The medical electronics industry? How many others?

    What is the source of the ANIMUS for the solar power industry?? I don't GET it!
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    The fossil fuel industry owns the Republican Party, and has for decades.
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    More on coal vs solar:

    Want to save lives? Replace coal with solar!

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0601133430.htm

    This is more avoidable deaths than the number of Americans killed in automobile accidents every year......
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    Yeah I don't think Trump has even mentioned solar power.

    What makes you think he is against it?

    It doesn't have to be one or the other you know.

    You are creating a division where none exist.

    As for China, they already lead us in this area, we aren't seceding anything to them, they already have it.

    What we are against is the government dumping our tax dollars down this rabbit hole. If you want to work on it then fine, do it through private funding. We know solar very well, we know how to make stuff work with it and the fact is that it is not practical for the masses yet.

    It probably never will be.

    Putting some panels on your roof to help ease your electric bill is one thing, trying to run a civilization off of it is an entirely different thing.
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    Solar panels is a rallying cry for the revolution? Sounds like desperation. Buy some, install them, vote for somebody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The fossil fuel industry owns the Republican Party, and has for decades.
    And that is why the fossil fuel industry union workers vote republican.

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    Steam cars, better than electric. Could power them with all the excess paper used in Wash DC.
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    When solar makes sense, economically, many more of us will get it for our homes.

    It's getting better every year, but it's not there yet.

    I have already gotten an estimate for my home.

    Maybe it'll get there in a few more years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    We are still in the early stages of the solar power revolution.

    The price of solar power has been PLUMMETING. At an exponential rate. And will continue to do so. The technology is somewhat similar to silicon computer chips, after all. We had Moore's Law in the computer chip industry, and they have the analogous Swanson Effect in photo-voltaics.

    Solar power already beats any fossil fuels on price in many parts of the world.

    In just a few years, there will be a MAD RUSH in the world to and towards solar power. Because it will be dirt-cheap.

    The long era of energy scarcity that began with the first oil price shock in 1973 will be over.

    Mr. Trump CANNOT stop that.

    He might want to. He might want to, very BADLY, and Vladimir Putin would CERTAINLY like to stop the solar energy revolution in its tracks. But they can't. It is inexorable.

    Trump might indeed be able to get Congress to SLASH all research funding for solar power.

    But so what? If so, that will simply cede leadership in this rapidly growing industry to China.

    I have no idea why America would want to do that. Perhaps the enemies of solar power who are posters here would care to explain why they want America to lose the solar power industry to China.

    And we should also ask them how many of America's OTHER high-tech industries they would be willing to surrender to China. The aerospace industry? The computer chip industry? The computer software industry? The pharmaceutical industry? The medical electronics industry? How many others?

    What is the source of the ANIMUS for the solar power industry?? I don't GET it!
    Its only been 50 years, maybe in another hundred and a few trillion invested, solar PV will be a feasible and economic energy source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The fossil fuel industry owns the Republican Party, and has for decades.
    Barack Obama was the largest recipient of BP campaign. Right after taking office he issued an environmental waiver for BP, for the Deepwater Horizon offshore well.
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