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    I have never known someone in my life who loves Wal Mart and McDonalds so much in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Their conduct is rationale, but bad for American workers. Our government should restrain the worst of their abuses.

    It is not the duty of Amazon to see to our unemployment rate, etc. That's on our POTUS.

    But I am not holding my breath.
    How is this particular thing in the OP bad for anyone? It's just a price war that benefits customers.

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    Bullshit. Walmart is willing to build its stores where the poor people shop. They aren't a Costco charging for membership and they aren't like Target building in the more affluent areas. Liberals hate Walmart because they are an American success story. Success is a bad thing to liberals. They want the last place guy to get the same trophy as the winner.
    I couldn't speak for liberal's hate of Walmart. Not sure why you bring it up here, since it doesn't apply to me My objections to their business practices is based on knowledge gained from my wife , and my time working there. You really should do some research on them before you go singing praises to them. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Yes, and these two companies have killed virtually all competition, by legal and illegal uses of monopoly power.

    We need another Teddy Roosevelt.
    I feel guilty every time I use Amazon prime but I guess this is the new reality and department stores and stores will eventually go out of business. With Amazon I ordered something and within two days it is here with no shipping expenses .returning is simple and customer service is unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    I feel guilty every time I use Amazon prime but I guess this is the new reality and department stores and stores will eventually go out of business. With Amazon I ordered something and within two days it is here with no shipping expenses .returning is simple and customer service is unbelievable.
    Admit I use Amazon too when I need something fast. But I've been trying to buy local when ever I can. There are a lot of Mom & Pop places where I live and gone for years. I don't want them to go out of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I want the shopping districts full of hometown businesses back. I want to buy my tires from my neighbor.
    I truly make a point of patronising small business in my area, to the point where I have been going to the same places for up to 20-30 years. Some retire and close, others fail, I then build a new relationship with another small business offering the same or similar service(s). I do not bargain or haggle, and even when travelling I build up relationships and use the same services in various cities.

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    I am a single man with no dependents and I earn a good salary, therefore, I can afford to. That's the biggie, unfortunately, and there are many who need Amazon and Walmart to help clothe and educate their families owing to the pressure of the cost of living. Sadly, one can view the large returns from companies like these both, positively or negatively. It could be a testament to the scale of low income necessity as they are obviously providing popular outlets for goods for the demograph, or they can be seen as profiting off hardship and price gouging.

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    I couldn't speak for liberal's hate of Walmart. Not sure why you bring it up here, since it doesn't apply to me My objections to their business practices is based on knowledge gained from my wife , and my time working there. You really should do some research on them before you go singing praises to them. Seriously.
    Walmart is a true American success story starting from a couple five and dimes in Arkansas, spreading across the whole country. Walmart was willing to build its stores outside of the cities rather than just in the population centers. I can't help it that you couldn't make it working for them and now detest them. The company even pays 30% more than minimum wage, offers insurance, gives back to the communities that they are in. Walmart isn't like Target where all the beautiful people shop. I know that many are too good to shop somewhere like Walmart with all the unwashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    You are missing the point, I think.

    Amazon and Walmarts profit ENORMOUSLY from the new American poor.
    They profit from the fact people shop there for the lowest priced goods. Lower prices from greater production efficiency means we can consume more than if prices were higher and production/delivery was less efficient. Consuming more generally means living standards are higher than if we were consuming less.

    The tagline here suggests the most successful retailers are inevitably going to always be regarded as nothing but a problem. This defies reality, because the vast majority of Americans are huge fans of Amazon, Costco and/or Walmart. The American people do not see the most successful retailers as nothing but a problem. They see the most successful retailers as their marketplace. The place where they go to get the things they need. They love the fact they can just go to their marketplace and conveniently get all the stuff they need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    They profit from the fact people shop there for the lowest priced goods. Lower prices from greater production efficiency means we can consume more than if prices were higher and production/delivery was less efficient. Consuming more generally means living standards are higher than if we were consuming less.

    The tagline here suggests the most successful retailers are inevitably going to always be regarded as nothing but a problem. This defies reality, because the vast majority of Americans are huge fans of Amazon, Costco and/or Walmart. The American people do not see the most successful retailers as nothing but a problem. They see the most successful retailers as their marketplace. The place where they go to get the things they need. They love the fact they can just go to their marketplace and conveniently get all the stuff they need.
    Walmart/Amazon is shaping up to be a titanic version of Macys/Gimbels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    I feel guilty every time I use Amazon prime but I guess this is the new reality and department stores and stores will eventually go out of business. With Amazon I ordered something and within two days it is here with no shipping expenses .returning is simple and customer service is unbelievable.
    I haven't really felt guilty because Amazon Prime delivers me so much, music, streaming TV, free 2 day shipping, reviews, etc. I pretty much buy everything on Amazon.

    The problem is, these companies can still make lots of money and be successful, drive out competition, make money for their shareholders, and pay their workers livable wages. THey are just greedy

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