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    I understand. People have worried about the dehumanizing effects of technology since at least the dawn of the Industrial Age (if not much earlier). But, you know, we are actually going out to EAT more. We interact with people in restaurants, don't we? Of course restaurants are going to get more and more automated, too----except at the very high end, where people WANT human waiters.
    Yeah not a fan of the automation at restaurants either.

    I watched this great documentary the other night - it was with Carl Reiner (who is 95) and a lot of other "celebrities" in the same age range. Dick Van Dyke, Betty White. All still going strong - one of the things they do everyday in interact face to face with other people on a daily basis in the course of still doing what they love. Whether is be writing, music, panting, comedy. Sure automation has made life easier, but sometimes, good old fashion face to face it what helps keeps you going - especially if your feeling isolated from others.

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    Bullshit. Walmart is willing to build its stores where the poor people shop. They aren't a Costco charging for membership and they aren't like Target building in the more affluent areas. Liberals hate Walmart because they are an American success story. Success is a bad thing to liberals. They want the last place guy to get the same trophy as the winner.
    if you want your success stories to be large corporations, that's fine, but I prefer my success stories to be hard working individuals who succeeded in spite of great odds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steezer View Post
    if you want your success stories to be large corporations, that's fine, but I prefer my success stories to be hard working individuals who succeeded in spite of great odds.
    Good point! Policy is skewed too much in favour of the corporation. We know, for example, the so called Walmart Effect includes depressed local wages. If we ignore these effects we will overestimate welfare gains and, in the long term, actually harm entrepreneurial spirit

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    Quote Originally Posted by steezer View Post
    if you want your success stories to be large corporations, that's fine, but I prefer my success stories to be hard working individuals who succeeded in spite of great odds.
    You mean like Sam Walton, Ray Kroc and Thomas S Monaghan? I don't think anyone can say that the two of them did not succeed by hard work and determination. What you miss is that hard working individuals build successful companies in spite of great odds. Michael Dell, Steve Jobs & Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates & Paul Allen... These are examples of hard working people that build huge corporations, in spite of great odds. Their organizations became great corporations, you know the success that you detest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    You mean like Sam Walton, Ray Kroc and Thomas S Monaghan? I don't think anyone can say that the two of them did not succeed by hard work and determination. What you miss is that hard working individuals build successful companies in spite of great odds. Michael Dell, Steve Jobs & Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates & Paul Allen... These are examples of hard working people that build huge corporations, in spite of great odds. Their organizations became great corporations, you know the success that you detest.
    The low self-employment rate, mind you, suggests entrepreneurial spirit has been hindered...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æthelfrith View Post
    The low self-employment rate, mind you, suggests entrepreneurial spirit has been hindered...
    That may be true, so what is it that you purpose? Limiting the amount of success one individual or corporation can have? Oops, you have made too much money, we are shutting you down now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    That may be true, so what is it that you purpose? Limiting the amount of success one individual or corporation can have? Oops, you have made too much money, we are shutting you down now.
    Equality of opportunity would be a good start. That would mean reducing social inequalities and delivering a less conservative financial system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æthelfrith View Post
    Equality of opportunity would be a good start. That would mean reducing social inequalities and delivering a less conservative financial system
    Are you saying that Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, Paul Allen, Bill Gates, Ray Kroc, Steve Wozniak, Thomas Monaghan, and Sam Walton had some kind of unequal opportunity? Bullshit. They worked their asses off, and succeeded for it. Look at Harland Sanders, worked his entire life to earn that fortune. S Truett Cathy busted him hump for decades. These are American success stories, each and every one. No one handed it to them. They earned it.

    Want to say that they are all white? Okay what about James Forten? Arthur Gaston? John Johnston? Reginald Lewis? Barack H Obama? Would you say that these people did not achieve tremendous success by hard work coming from humble beginnings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Are you saying that Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, Paul Allen, Bill Gates, Ray Kroc, Steve Wozniak, Thomas Monaghan, and Sam Walton had some kind of unequal opportunity? Bullshit. They worked their asses off, and succeeded for it. Look at Harland Sanders, worked his entire life to earn that fortune. S Truett Cathy busted him hump for decades. These are American success stories, each and every one. No one handed it to them. They earned it.

    Want to say that they are all white? Okay what about James Forten? Arthur Gaston? John Johnston? Reginald Lewis? Barack H Obama? Would you say that these people did not achieve tremendous success by hard work coming from humble beginnings?
    I'm saying that we know, other things remaining equal, entrepreneurial behaviour is boosted through greater social equality. Your politics essentially is consistent with stunting growth. That's a shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æthelfrith View Post
    I'm saying that we know, other things remaining equal, entrepreneurial behaviour is boosted through greater social equality. Your politics essentially is consistent with stunting growth. That's a shame
    What is your proposal? Limit how much success one individual can have? Would you have stopped Sam Walton at only a handful of stores? Monaghan at just five states?

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