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    Maybe we should provide them with an automobile so they can travel about.
    If someone gets a job, but has no access to transportation, how would you expect him to show up for work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell Edison View Post
    I guess you aren't smart enough to realize that paying customers are footing the bill for these lazy freeloaders. It's an extra fee on every single bill.

    To make it worse, if one is on any other kind of welfare, they automatically qualify for 0bamaphones.

    I despise welfare chits who are sucking the tit dry. I've lived through some exceptionally financially rough times in my life and have NEVER asked for a handout. I hitched up my boots and panties and worked harder. Welfare people are lazy, pure and simple. I'm sick of them.
    So then Obama did a great job in the job creating department, and there are enough jobs to employ everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    If someone gets a job, but has no access to transportation, how would you expect him to show up for work?
    Their hatred and disdain for the poor has no limits or boundaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxwell Edison View Post
    I guess you aren't smart enough to realize that paying customers are footing the bill for these lazy freeloaders. It's an extra fee on every single bill.

    To make it worse, if one is on any other kind of welfare, they automatically qualify for 0bamaphones.

    I despise welfare chits who are sucking the tit dry. I've lived through some exceptionally financially rough times in my life and have NEVER asked for a handout. I hitched up my boots and panties and worked harder. Welfare people are lazy, pure and simple. I'm sick of them.
    I agree. We should also get rid of the little old ladies using this program to have a landline they could otherwise not afford.

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    Well, without looking into the actual details, I have to say that I think the idea does have some incredible value to the poor. It would keep people in touch with perspective employers and help to keep those without means connected to their families.

    I would have to way this against:

    1 The fraud accusation which Southern Dad has presented.

    2 How much this program costs and who actually pays for it.

    3 If the benefits are actually worth the investment.

    My summery judgment would be to encourage the poor to stay connected to contacts and opportunities.
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    Once again, want to talk waste? What about a million dollars for each missile that does nothing but destroy things. Talk about waste. WHat about patrolling the seas all around the world? Bases all over the world? Talk about waste

    Phone and internet are crucial> People can't get jobs without it. Their smart phone may be their only way to connect to the internet. You are talking about poor people who can barely afford to eat and internet/computer/clel phone service isn't cheap for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    If they will rip off the government off over 9 bucks think what they will do with much more expensive programs. Everyone else is being fleeced in additional taxes on their phone bills. Terminate the program.
    If I were president, I would attempt to offer free wifi to the entire country. It would be a foundation for America to lead the world in economic growth and freedom, it would encourage more travel to America and create an advantage for American workers.

    The problem with most people on the internet is that have very narrow-minded solutions to everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    Once again, want to talk waste? What about a million dollars for each missile that does nothing but destroy things. Talk about waste. WHat about patrolling the seas all around the world? Bases all over the world? Talk about waste

    Phone and internet are crucial> People can't get jobs without it. Their smart phone may be their only way to connect to the internet. You are talking about poor people who can barely afford to eat and internet/computer/clel phone service isn't cheap for them
    You're one of those posters that is difficult to pigeonhole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    You're one of those posters that is difficult to pigeonhole!
    Ike said it way back in the 50's:

    "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

    This world in arms in not spending money alone.

    It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

    The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

    It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

    It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

    It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

    We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.

    We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

    This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.

    This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."
    What happened to all the Eisenhower Republicans? Now we have hate filled misers demanding the poor give up their last ounce of blood to satiate the greed of the capitalist class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    The program sometimes called Obamaphones, although he didn't create it, seems to be a money waster. How is anyone surprised that this program is not being used as intended? Call anyone you want, don't bother to use it to seek jobs. Surf the web. It's free, well paid for by someone else.
    If this was a program allowing cops to seize suspected drug users phones and resell them at a profit, you wouldn't care how much waste, fraud and abuse there was.

    I've come to the realization that the main difference between conservatives and liberals is that liberals want the government to do more to help people and conservatives want the government to focus only on punishing people.
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