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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Well hell, not everyone can drive to the grocery store, should we make food and delivery of it free? Not everyone can lick a stamp, should we make electricity free? You know it is hard to surf the web without electricity... What is the next freebie that we can expect to see the Democrats on board with giving away... Isn't Other People's Money a wonderful thing?
    Yeah, and guess what? Most cities have taxpayer funded, subsidized transportation systems called buses and trains, so the poor can get to the stores, work, etc. Once again, you make a comment that in fact goes against what your position is. You just made the case for these phones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Food is more readily available to people than internet access. And yes - there are free food delivery programs for the poor and infirm, and electricity subsidies. I thought you'd be on-board with benefits that push people in the direction of employment.
    Do you want to add free clothes and free dry cleaning? I'm flat out tired of the word FREE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    Any government spending going to the private sector will involve fraud.
    That is correct. And attempts to curb that fraud cost money as well. welfare a classic example. If 5 cents out of each welfare dollar is stolen and you want to stop it is it worth it to spend 8 out of every dollar or just realize it happens and accept it. The repub would spend 25 cents if they could prevent someone from stealing a nickel, especially a poor person. They hate them with a passion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Do you want to add free clothes and free dry cleaning? I'm flat out tired of the word FREE.
    I get that sense. That's why it's baffling that you continue to use the word "free" when it doesn't come up once in the article text that you quoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Do you want to add free clothes and free dry cleaning? I'm flat out tired of the word FREE.
    You liked it when Georgia was spending millions on "free" voter ID's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Do you want to add free clothes and free dry cleaning? I'm flat out tired of the word FREE.
    Damn that Ronald Reagan for starting such a program!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Do you want to add free clothes and free dry cleaning? I'm flat out tired of the word FREE.
    you mean like salvation army stores ? yes, add it !

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    If it was up to the frenzied right, poor people would be naked, and freezing and starving in the dark....they would be happy for every city to have Rio de Janeiro level slums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I get that sense. That's why it's baffling that you continue to use the word "free" when it doesn't come up once in the article text that you quoted.
    Baffled? I guess I can see how you would be baffled by it. After all, you are so partisan that you would not want to admit that they individuals using the service are not paying anything for it, therefore it is free to them. Paid for by someone else. We all know that you are educated, when you attempt to play stupid in your posts, like the one that I quoted it just comes off as a condescending bullshit post to troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Baffled? I guess I can see how you would be baffled by it. After all, you are so partisan that you would not want to admit that they individuals using the service are not paying anything for it, therefore it is free to them. Paid for by someone else. We all know that you are educated, when you attempt to play stupid in your posts, like the one that I quoted it just comes off as a condescending bullshit post to troll.
    I've been watching a week long special on PBS News Hour. The News Hour has been speaking with people in WVirginia about their health care.

    Most were poor on some kink of program...ACA, Medicare or Medicaid. Most voted for Trump. Some believed Trump would make their healthcare better.

    Many had the realization that Trump may take their HC away. And many were resolute; saying that they were poor folk...they were used to "not having nothing".



    These people were made to be so fearful and hateful of Obama, Obamacare, ACA, Clinton and Democrats that they voted 86% for Trump.

    They are used to having nothing.
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