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    This low-cost phone and Internet program wastes millions in federal funding, auditors

    The program sometimes called Obamaphones, although he didn't create it, seems to be a money waster. How is anyone surprised that this program is not being used as intended? Call anyone you want, don't bother to use it to seek jobs. Surf the web. It's free, well paid for by someone else.

    This low-cost phone and Internet program wastes millions in federal funding, auditors say

    A federal program designed to help millions of low-income Americans afford phone and Internet service is riddled with fraud and abuse, with at least $137 million a year going to ineligible, fake or dead people, according to government auditors.

    The explosive report Thursday from the Government Accountability Office shows that despite efforts to rein in abuse of the sprawling Lifeline program, which serves 12.3 million subscribers on Medicaid, food stamps or other benefits, many recipients of the $9.25-a-month credit are violating program rules.

    Established during the Reagan administration, Lifeline is aimed at closing the digital divide between those with access to vital communications services and those without. Altogether, Lifeline distributes about $1.5 billion a year in subsidies.

    It is funded by fees that are added to every consumer's monthly phone bill, and was expanded in 2016 — allowing beneficiaries to spend their monthly credits not only on traditional landline phone service, as they have done for decades, but also on residential Internet and mobile broadband.

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    $9.25 a month? Those thieving bastards!! They should be punished severely and all welfare taken away and they should be put in jail for fraud! The horror and outrage should be felt world wide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    $9.25 a month? Those thieving bastards!! They should be punished severely and all welfare taken away and they should be put in jail for fraud! The horror and outrage should be felt world wide!
    How much fraud is okay? $137 million going to ineligible, fake, or dead people isn't a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    $9.25 a month? Those thieving bastards!! They should be punished severely and all welfare taken away and they should be put in jail for fraud! The horror and outrage should be felt world wide!
    Sounds like the first salvo fired in the war to shut the program down.

    All those poor people getting phone service and low cost internet...How dare they get to call someone to chat or watch a Youtube video...those bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    How much fraud is okay? $137 million going to ineligible, fake, or dead people isn't a problem?
    How did fake people get phone service?

    If you and the story is claiming the service used to sign up people cheated on sign up sheets...that is not the program.

    There are reports that canvassers signing up voter registration faked sign up forms to get paid. That is not voter fraud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    How much fraud is okay? $137 million going to ineligible, fake, or dead people isn't a problem?
    You tell me. HOw much fraud from corporations is enough? how many billions of dollars do companies fraud out of taxpayers and their consumers? Oh, that's somehow acceptable to you?

    Fraud happens. YOu dishonest hacks try to pretend that because their is fraud, we must shut down the entire process. That can apply to everything. There is fraud in the military, should we shut that down? It's a disingenuous and frankly completely idiotic position to take.

    You can't actually argue against the benefits of a program like this, or you just don't want poor people and minorities to get any help, so you have to be dishonest and pretend because there is fraud, the program is a failure or should go away.

    Then shut down everything, because wherever there is money, there will be fraud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    You tell me. HOw much fraud from corporations is enough? how many billions of dollars do companies fraud out of taxpayers and their consumers? Oh, that's somehow acceptable to you?

    Fraud happens. YOu dishonest hacks try to pretend that because their is fraud, we must shut down the entire process. That can apply to everything. There is fraud in the military, should we shut that down? It's a disingenuous and frankly completely idiotic position to take.

    You can't actually argue against the benefits of a program like this, or you just don't want poor people and minorities to get any help, so you have to be dishonest and pretend because there is fraud, the program is a failure or should go away.

    Then shut down everything, because wherever there is money, there will be fraud
    Of course fraud is an excellent argument. Its inherent waste. We aren't discussing committing we are really discussing beibg defrauded. This is $1.5bn program and $137mn is AWOL. That's nearly 10%, when was the last time you heard a corporation being defrauded out of 10% of its gross revenue? Year after year? It never happens because corporations care enough to ferret out fraud being committed against it. With respect to the government, its not their money, they don't care or really enough. It shows too in other programs as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    The program sometimes called Obamaphones, although he didn't create it, seems to be a money waster. How is anyone surprised that this program is not being used as intended? Call anyone you want, don't bother to use it to seek jobs. Surf the web. It's free, well paid for by someone else.
    cricket phones that only make calls and thats it. No camera, no internet.
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