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    They say that they have over 150,000 members in just five cities; Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Miami and San Francisco. They have attended over 4,200 events. Surkus is the name of the app. It is available on iOS and Google Play. This is used by all sorts of venues. Promoters use it to fill seats at crowds. Would you like to get paid to attend events? Bars and night clubs have used things like ladies nights to attract more females to their bars for a long time. This app allows them to request a certain number of women. Want a crowd of well dressed middle aged couples? This app can do it. Could it be used to fill a political venue to make a candidate appear very popular?

    See the cool kids lined up outside that new restaurant? This app pays them to stand there.

    Pretend for a moment that you’re walking through your neighborhood and notice a line of people wrapped around the block outside a newly opened restaurant.

    Local food bloggers haven’t written about the venue, so you assume the trendy-looking crowd must be the result of contagious, word-of-mouth buzz.

    There was a time when that may have been undoubtedly true — when you could trust that a crowd of people was, in fact, a naturally occurring mass of individuals.

    But that time may be passing thanks to Surkus, an emerging app that allowed the restaurant to quickly manufacture its ideal crowd and pay the people to stand in place like extras on a movie set. They’ve even been hand-picked by a casting agent of sorts, an algorithmic one that selects each person according to age, location, style and Facebook “likes.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    They say that they have over 150,000 members in just five cities; Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Miami and San Francisco. They have attended over 4,200 events. Surkus is the name of the app. It is available on iOS and Google Play. This is used by all sorts of venues. Promoters use it to fill seats at crowds. Would you like to get paid to attend events? Bars and night clubs have used things like ladies nights to attract more females to their bars for a long time. This app allows them to request a certain number of women. Want a crowd of well dressed middle aged couples? This app can do it. Could it be used to fill a political venue to make a candidate appear very popular?

    Sure, Trump's crowds were paid, oh except those kids who sang for him, they were SUPPOSED to get paid but never did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Sure, Trump's crowds were paid, oh except those kids who sang for him, they were SUPPOSED to get paid but never did.
    Do we really need to put out claims that are obviously false and just show hatred toward the candidate that you do not like? We could have a serious discussion about the possibility of using something like this app to fill a venue for a future political race with the right demographic that will help that candidate get elected. It would certainly make the person look more popular than they really are and could build momentum in the media coverage. What if Target were to use this to fill their stores with the right kind of shoppers? Could it help draw people to the stores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Do we really need to put out claims that are obviously false and just show hatred toward the candidate that you do not like? We could have a serious discussion about the possibility of using something like this app to fill a venue for a future political race with the right demographic that will help that candidate get elected. It would certainly make the person look more popular than they really are and could build momentum in the media coverage. What if Target were to use this to fill their stores with the right kind of shoppers? Could it help draw people to the stores?
    I appreciate the attempt, but in the current environment, where there's already the claim that the left "pays" protesters to stand up against Trump in rallies.. not sure how far a "serious" and non-partisan discussion could go ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    I appreciate the attempt, but in the current environment, where there's already the claim that the left "pays" protesters to stand up against Trump in rallies.. not sure how far a "serious" and non-partisan discussion could go ?
    What if I was running for an elected office. I decided to use something like this to pack a venue. Each time, I used this app to fill all untaken seats. It would appear that I was far more popular than I was. Over time, I would most likely be using less and less fillers as people would be drawn by the popularity and the news coverage of my events.

    Yes, there were claims that the left paid some people to attend some things based upon some Craigslist posts that were out. But Craigslist is nothing like this service. This service is able to get the "right" people for the event. I am not sure that they do political events. They probably do not. Right now it has been restaurants, parties, and other events like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    What if I was running for an elected office. I decided to use something like this to pack a venue. Each time, I used this app to fill all untaken seats. It would appear that I was far more popular than I was. Over time, I would most likely be using less and less fillers as people would be drawn by the popularity and the news coverage of my events.

    Yes, there were claims that the left paid some people to attend some things based upon some Craigslist posts that were out. But Craigslist is nothing like this service. This service is able to get the "right" people for the event. I am not sure that they do political events. They probably do not. Right now it has been restaurants, parties, and other events like that.
    I guess the biggest issue with this idea is, the number of "fillers", and the amount paid, plus the "requirements" for such fillers.. would be researchable, and available data in the app.
    So the provider of the app, would have a huge power of either releasing it, or not, depending on personal preference.. or in the end even being able to blackmail ?

    I'm sure neither Trump or HRC would have had any interest in the public finding out WHO they hired for their rallies, what they paid them, and how many were paid.
    but i think his data WOULD come out, through leakers at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    I guess the biggest issue with this idea is, the number of "fillers", and the amount paid, plus the "requirements" for such fillers.. would be researchable, and available data in the app.
    So the provider of the app, would have a huge power of either releasing it, or not, depending on personal preference.. or in the end even being able to blackmail ?

    I'm sure neither Trump or HRC would have had any interest in the public finding out WHO they hired for their rallies, what they paid them, and how many were paid.
    but i think his data WOULD come out, through leakers at least.
    You have a point. Leakers would most likely let the cat out of the bag. I can see it hitting WikiLeaks now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    You have a point. Leakers would most likely let the cat out of the bag. I can see it hitting WikiLeaks now.
    and on top of that.. how do you control that those signing up as a filler, "actually" support the case and fit your requirements, and are not using the opportunity to "undermine" the event ? Like, coming in with a "I'm with her" shirt, and once in , take off the shirt to expose the next one saying "Lock her up!"

    Same would apply to Trump rallies, of course. And, for Trump rallies, if they "anticipate" such behavior, would there be a criteria for such paid rally volunteers, to pick mostly white fillers.. expecting that minorities are more likely to "undermine" the event ?

    Lots of issues with such an approach, i guess.

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    The app uses likes and things like that from your social media to match you to events. In addition, there is a reputation score. If someone were to pull something like what you speak of they wouldn't be getting any more invites to other events. It also uses GPS tracking to make sure they really go to the event and how long they stay. Like I said this has been for parties, restaurants, comedians, and things like that so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    The app uses likes and things like that from your social media to match you to events. In addition, there is a reputation score. If someone were to pull something like what you speak of they wouldn't be getting any more invites to other events. It also uses GPS tracking to make sure they really go to the event and how long they stay. Like I said this has been for parties, restaurants, comedians, and things like that so far.
    Well, even for restaurants.. the question is if users of the app, can see all the "offers" to sign up for a restaurant, or whatever ?

    To me, the only reason to have the app would be to double check, if an establishment / event i am interested in, applies these - shady ? - techniques to raise their profile.

    But as for the algorithm you describe, it indeed could prevent posters to get an assignment.

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