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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    I'm talking to someone that thinks neurotic economic conservatism is important. Seems fitting!
    At least now you're referencing the supported psychology correlation with modern political conservatism. You keep banging this drum as if you think the neuroticism link will offend or upset me. You think wrong (again).

    I provided detail. You ignored it. Its your standard reaction.

    i do know you struggle with economic rationality though.

    Again, you demonstrate that you can't respond to what is said.

    I refer to economic rationality. Naff all to do with the US political system. Indeed, its in Britain where we have the clear evidence of shifting from grants to fees: reductions in social mobility.

    Child care is typically more associated with general interest in removing 'glass ceilings' and 'sticky floors'. More generous systems, typically associated with social democratic welfare systems, have been successful in narrowing gender wage differentials at key quartiles of the wage distribution. The continued focus on higher education is correct, given the continued search for equality of opportunity
    More argumentativeness for its own sake despite strong elements of potential agreement between us. You must still be a little rattled by your weak authoritarian personality psychology talking point in the other thread that failed to land. You don't have to act so embarrassed. It's just an anonymous online political forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    "all people should have quality health care, higher education and child care" Bernie Sanders

    Given he is referring to basic ingredients for economic prosperity, why have the likes of the US and the UK forgotten economic rationality?
    WE HAVE THE BEST IN THE WORLD. now

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    WE HAVE THE BEST IN THE WORLD. now
    You didn't answer the question. Can you show that amenable mortality rates are lower than in other Western nations? Perhaps Canada, UK, France, Germany and Sweden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    You didn't answer the question. Can you show that amenable mortality rates are lower than in other Western nations? Perhaps Canada, UK, France, Germany and Sweden?
    But he used ALL CAPS. Everyone knows ALL CAPS CLAIMS > claims in lower case with citations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    "all people should have quality health care, higher education and child care" Bernie Sanders

    Given he is referring to basic ingredients for economic prosperity, why have the likes of the US and the UK forgotten economic rationality?
    Public education is a good thing. Public child care for infants and toddlers, probably not. Health care dished out in the same fashion as public education I could understand. Private health care policies paid for with public money, absolutely not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    Private health care policies paid for with public money, absolutely not.
    Certainly examples of problems from the UK, with partial privatisation of the NHS generating all sorts of inefficiencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    Certainly examples of problems from the UK, with partial privatisation of the NHS generating all sorts of inefficiencies.
    The privatized sector of the NHS in the UK is the sector that is working.

    Google Ambulance Stacking in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    The privatized sector of the NHS in the UK is the sector that is working.

    Google Ambulance Stacking in the UK.
    You seem to think making vacuous comments are enough. It isn't. Let's try with your original comment. Read the following:

    http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journa...17)30818-8.pdf

    Offer critique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    Certainly examples of problems from the UK, with partial privatisation of the NHS generating all sorts of inefficiencies.
    The US system where the consumer is totally unaware and indifferent about the cost and value of health care creates even worse inefficiencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The US system where the consumer is totally unaware and indifferent about the cost and value of health care creates even worse inefficiencies.
    The inefficiency is generated through using the private sector where it is inappropriate. Market forces, where public expenditures are so key, only induce influence and agency costs

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