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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    If liberals would just for once heed this motto. You cannot fix all problems by throwing money at it and it is beyond foolish to keep giving our reps more dollars to squander until they start showing us some responsibility with the massive amount of dollars they have at hand now.
    And the trillion dollar deficit you support is doing what, but THROWING money and NOT paying for it, then leaving the taxpayers to not ONLY pay the principle cost, but the INTEREST on the INCREASED debt, just as G.W. Bush did.

    https://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0116/p01s01-usfp.html

    Call me a "liberal" all you like, but I was a Republican, like the author of the following and left the party when idiots and those that support their BS took over the party and began doing things as the following author describes.

    THE WAY WE LIVE NOW: 6-8-03; Deficits and Dysfunction - The New York Times
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Strange Median income has increased 4% since trump became president.

    Damn.. after 8 years of decline, an stagnation.
    The DECLINE AND STAGNATION began when?
    http://www.epi.org/publication/chart...ge-stagnation/
    http://www.epi.org/publication/stagnant-wages-in-2014/
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...d-for-decades/


    Even stranger? Trump hasn't had a major piece of legislation pass, YET.......If hopium can improve the economy, then why do we need a tax cut?

    You may have also noted what the economy was doing BEFORE Trump was elected, also.
    https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2016/wa...-june-2016.htm
    https://www.fastcompany.com/3055151/...-years-in-2016
    http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/25/news...ses/index.html
    https://hbr.org/2017/10/why-wages-ar...ing-in-america


    Some people are NOT as DUMB as some others here seem to hope they are.

    So weird that some of the same people that have felt their wages stagnate and decline are unwilling to believe and accept why that has occurred and keep on electing the same people that have perpetuated it, believing their BS, each time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    The DECLINE AND STAGNATION began when? Wage Stagnation in Nine Charts | Economic Policy Institute
    2014 Continues a 35-Year Trend of Broad-Based Wage Stagnation | Economic Policy Institute

    For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades | Pew Research Center


    Even stranger? Trump hasn't had a major piece of legislation pass, YET.......If hopium can improve the economy, then why do we need a tax cut?

    You may have also noted what the economy was doing BEFORE Trump was elected, also.

    So people are NOT as DUMB as some others here seem to hope they are.
    he got rid of a few thousand Job killing and wage killing regulations. OOPS


    Stagnation began in 2009.

    Median income in 2008 was higher than in 2000, but Lower than 2008 in 2016.

    oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    If liberals would just for once heed this motto. You cannot fix all problems by throwing money at it and it is beyond foolish to keep giving our reps more dollars to squander until they start showing us some responsibility with the massive amount of dollars they have at hand now.
    And yet you'd hand over beautiful tax breaks to corporations believing this time they'll do right buy the peeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Strange Median income has increased 4% since trump became president.

    Damn.. after 8 years of decline, an stagnation.
    Obviously just voicing the most holy name of the great orange god did the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    he got rid of a few thousand Job killing and wage killing regulations. OOPS


    Stagnation began in 2009.

    Median income in 2008 was higher than in 2000, but Lower than 2008 in 2016.

    oops
    Um yah - that was before the economic effects of the great recession took hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    I wonder why a massive minimum wage increase was not included in this tax plan? Do Republicans "trust" that corporations wont just suck up the tax money and give it to their shareholders, like they always do?
    Problem is people are now associating minimum wage increases with robots and automation. So now people are fearful about it as companies have shown they will just automate faster. Lots of my liberal friends have dropped that fast as stores around here have more automated check outs and have laid off bunches of people. Retail, service etc will be hit the hardest by automation and no need to speed it up they figure.
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    Yeah, and companies are more likely to use the tax windfall to further automate, not take on new hires or pay higher wages. An audience of CEO's was asked for a show of hands of those who plan to expand their businesses and out of hundreds in that audience 5 hands went up. 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    Yeah, and companies are more likely to use the tax windfall to further automate, not take on new hires or pay higher wages. An audience of CEO's was asked for a show of hands of those who plan to expand their businesses and out of hundreds in that audience 5 hands went up. 5
    Productivity is up over the last decades. And all of the gains are going to the top, because corporate structures have risen to dominate the world economy.

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