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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    You got it all wrong.

    I don't blame Obama for that twenty trillion debt.

    I blame him for nearly half of it, though.

    Because that's how much was added when he was in office.

    Thanks Obama!
    We will just ignore that the GOP controlled the House and the Budget for 6 of those 8 years.
    Thanks from Dittohead not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    We will just ignore that the GOP controlled the House and the Budget for 6 of those 8 years.
    Like I said:

    People will spin and twist it, but the fact remains that under Obama nearly $10 Trillion was added to the national debt.

    And that's a fact, Jack.

    Blame it on anything you want, or the dog ate your homework, or anything else you come up with.

    Obama is the reason for nearly half of Americas total nation debt.

    You can't change that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Like I said:

    People will spin and twist it, but the fact remains that under Obama nearly $10 Trillion was added to the national debt.

    And that's a fact, Jack.

    Blame it on anything you want, or the dog ate your homework, or anything else you come up with.

    Obama is the reason for nearly half of Americas total nation debt.

    You can't change that fact.
    Do you have a point? Or just mindless yammering of the same thing over and over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Don't sell Obama short.

    He managed to add nearly $10 Trillion to the national debt...in only 8 years!

    Thanks Obama!
    Please show EXACTLY how he did it on his own how the money was spent (and never recovered) and HOW it was NOT needed, based on trying to turn around the GREAT RECESSION a REPUBLICAN in the White House, at minimum, FAILED to avert or prevent, if not back policies that caused or contributed to a Great Recession. When millions of people are put out of work, your idea to help them get through until they can get back to work would be, to do what? "Let them eat cake"?

    How do YOU pay your bills? By asking all your sources of income, to keep more for themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    Please show EXACTLY how he did it on his own how the money was spent (and never recovered) and HOW it was NOT needed, based on trying to turn around the GREAT RECESSION a REPUBLICAN in the White House, at minimum, FAILED to avert or prevent, if not back policies that caused or contributed to a Great Recession. When millions of people are put out of work, your idea to help them get through until they can get back to work would be, to do what? "Let them eat cake"?

    How do YOU pay your bills? By asking all your sources of income, to keep more for themselves?
    The economy is doing very well, lately.

    Why do Schumer and Pelosi want to shut down the gubmint NOW?

    Putting illegals ahead of Americans is not the answer.

    Do they hate that America is doing so well with Trump in the WH?

    DACA can be fixed later, right now, we need to keep the gubmint going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    How many tons did Obama add to the national dabt?

    How many Ford pick-em-up trucks would it take to haul just Obama share of the debt.

    About half of the national debt is on Obama, right?

    Right!
    I don't know, ask BUSH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    I don't know, ask BUSH!
    I think "BUSH" also knows that it was Obama who added about half of the national debt.

    Right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The national debt increased by $1.4 trillion in 2016.

    The national debt increased by $0.7 trillion in 2017.

    Looks like we are headed in the right direction.
    Want the fucking #'s or not? Want to see the highs and lows and PERCENTAGES of increase by president, or not? Are you that lazy or that stupid, or what? Ever seen this numbers before? Ever bothered to look? There are people who are SMARTER people on this board and/or their fingers aren't broken!

    Your blaming Obama is partisan, tedious not to mention STUPID since it leaves out EVERYTHING. When one 'inherits' debt and has to fix it, one does NOT pay it off over night. Obama's increase was still 40% lower than BUSH's! You might wish to thank him!


    These statistics only go back to Woodrow Wilson. YOU WILL be happy to know that FDR--a DEMOCRAT-- 'WINS'. Of course he was fighting a world war and in the throes of the Great Depression economy (which began under a Republican). NEXT TO FDR and TAFT, the president that had the highest percentage of increase was RONALD REAGAN!

    NOTE the last year of BILL CLINTON and FIRST YEAR of George W. Bush. George W. Bush gave YOU TAX CUTS!! That's an appreciable statistic.


    Amount Added to the Debt for Each Fiscal Year Since 1960
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    Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

    FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
    FY 2015 - $327 billion.
    FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
    FY 2013 - $672 billion.
    FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
    FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
    FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
    FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

    George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

    FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
    FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
    FY 2007 - $501 billion.
    FY 2006 - $574 billion.
    FY 2005 - $554 billion.
    FY 2004 - $596 billion.
    FY 2003 - $555 billion.
    FY 2002 - $421 billion.

    Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget, FY 1993
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    FY 2001 - $133 billion.
    FY 2000 - $18 billion.
    FY 1999 - $130 billion.
    FY 1998 - $113 billion.
    FY 1997 - $188 billion.
    FY 1996 - $251 billion.
    FY 1995 - $281 billion.
    FY 1994 - $281 billion.

    George H.W. Bush: Added $1.554 trillion, a 54 percent increase from the $2.8 trillion debt at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

    FY 1993 - $347 billion.
    FY 1992 - $399 billion.
    FY 1991 - $432 billion.
    FY 1990 - $376 billion.
    Ronald Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, a 186 percent increase from the $998 billion debt at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981. Reaganomics didn't work to grow the economy enough to offset tax cuts.

    FY 1989 - $255 billion.
    FY 1988 - $252 billion.
    FY 1987 - $225 billion.
    FY 1986 - $297 billion.
    FY 1985 - $256 billion.
    FY 1984 - $195 billion.
    FY 1983 - $235 billion.
    FY 1982 - $144 billion.

    Jimmy Carter: Added $299 billion, a 43 percent increase from the $699 billion debt at the end of Ford's last budget, FY 1977.

    FY 1981 - $90 billion.
    FY 1980 - $81 billion.
    FY 1979 - $55 billion.
    FY 1978 - $73 billion.

    Gerald Ford: Added $224 billion, a 47 percent increase from the $475 billion debt at the end of Nixon's last budget, FY 1974.


    FY 1977 - $78 billion.
    FY 1976 - $87 billion.
    FY 1975 - $58 billion.

    Richard Nixon: Added $121 billion, a 34 percent increase from the $354 billion debt at the end of LBJ's last budget, FY 1969.

    FY 1974 - $17 billion.
    FY 1973 - $31 billion.
    FY 1972 - $29 billion.
    FY 1971 - $27 billion.
    FY 1970 - $17 billion.

    Lyndon B. Johnson: Added $42 billion, a 13 percent increase from the $312 billion debt at the end of JFK's last budget, FY 1964.

    FY 1969 - $6 billion.
    FY 1968 - $21 billion.
    FY 1967 - $6 billion.
    FY 1966 - $3 billion.
    FY 1965 - $6 billion.

    John F. Kennedy: Added $23 billion, an 8 percent increase from the $289 billion debt at the end of Eisenhower's last budget, FY 1961.

    FY 1964 - $6 billion.
    FY 1963 - $7 billion.
    FY 1962 - $10 billion.

    Dwight Eisenhower: Added $23 billion, a 9 percent increase from the $266 billion debt at the end of Truman's last budget, FY 1953.

    FY 1961 - $3 billion.
    FY 1960 - $2 billion.
    FY 1959 - $8 billion.
    FY 1958 - $6 billion.
    FY 1957 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1956 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1955 - $3 billion.
    FY 1954 - $5 billion.

    Harry Truman: Added $7 billion, a 3 percent increase from the $259 billion debt at the end of FDR’s last budget, FY 1945.

    FY 1953 - $7 billion.
    FY 1952 - $4 billion.
    FY 1951 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1950 - $5 billion.
    FY 1949 - slight surplus.
    FY 1948 - $6 billion surplus.
    FY 1947 - $11 billion surplus.
    FY 1946 - $11 billion.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt: Added $236 billion, a 1,048 percent increase from the $23 billion debt at the end of Hoover's last budget, FY 1933.

    FY 1945 - $58 billion.
    FY 1944 - $64 billion.
    FY 1943 - $64 billion.
    FY 1942 - $23 billion.
    FY 1941 - $6 billion.
    FY 1940 - $3 billion.
    FY 1939 - $3 billion.
    FY 1938 - $1 billion.
    FY 1937 - $3 billion.
    FY 1936 - $5 billion.
    FY 1935 - $2 billion.
    FY 1934 - $5 billion.

    Herbert Hoover: Added $6 billion, a 33 percent increase from the $17 billion debt at the end of Coolidge's last budget, FY 1929.

    FY 1933 - $3 billion.
    FY 1932 - $3 billion.
    FY 1931 - $1 billion.
    FY 1930 - $1 billion surplus.

    Calvin Coolidge: Subtracted $5 billion from the debt, a 26 percent decrease from the $21 billion debt at the end of Harding's last budget, FY 1923.


    FY 1929 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1928 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1927 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1926 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1925 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1924 - $1 billion surplus.

    Warren G. Harding: Subtracted $2 billion from the debt, a 7 percent decrease from the $24 billion debt at the end of Wilson's last budget, FY 1921.

    FY 1923 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1922 - $1 billion surplus.

    Woodrow Wilson: Added $21 billion to the debt, a 727 percent increase from the $2.9 billion debt at the end of Taft's last budget, FY 1913.


    FY 1921 - $2 billion surplus.
    FY 1920 - $1 billion surplus.
    FY 1919 - $13 billion.
    FY 1918 - $9 billion.
    FY 1917 - $2 billion.
    FY 1916 - $1 billion.
    FY 1915 - $0 billion (slight surplus).
    FY 1914 - $0 billion.


    https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

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    No matter how you spin and twist it, Obama added nearly half of Americas national debt.

    THAT is the one percentage that you failed to show.

    Wonder why???

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    Any idiot knows that a major recession/depression or war is going to increase the fucking deficit, no matter the President. So what is your point besides whining like a little girl about it? Why don't you bitch about FDR, he is the world champ of increasing the debt, that bastard!

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