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    On the long run, it will be all about competitiveness..... If American steelmakers are unable to compete with Canadians ones when they enjoy about the same costs, it means they did not follow up with necessary investment or that they are poorly organized..... And such high tariffs can only lead and encourage laziness on the American side.... And to use for such a tariff hike a law which aim is to protect the security of the USA is really awkward. To what a leadership can still pretend the USA if they play such games ? a catastrophy for the image of your country and the best way to build distrust.

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    Considering most of Canada's exports go to the United States a trade war with us would not be in their interests. But if they want to decimate their economy over a steel tariff then that's their business.

    Unlike some other countries - I'm not going to presume to tell other nations what their trade policies should be. Because I find the arrogance of these countries who think they can dictate to us what we can or can't tariff to be pretty off-putting so I'm not about to replicate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    If Canada wants to retaliate, they better drop the politeness.
    Best be careful. Canada's going to take over the world. Then you'll all be sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    On the long run, it will be all about competitiveness..... If American steelmakers are unable to compete with Canadians ones when they enjoy about the same costs, it means they did not follow up with necessary investment or that they are poorly organized..... And such high tariffs can only lead and encourage laziness on the American side.... And to use for such a tariff hike a law which aim is to protect the security of the USA is really awkward. To what a leadership can still pretend the USA if they play such games ? a catastrophy for the image of your country and the best way to build distrust.
    We have been using tariffs since our country was founded. What actually caused the catastrophy was NAFTA and the china trade agreements which desecrated our manufacturing sector and nearly wiped out the middle class in this country.

    It's also not the goal of an administration to make us more competitive... or at least it shouldn't be. It is to improve the quality of life for Americans. Yes - we could turn our country into a giant sweat shop fueled by cheap laborers churning out cheap products and out compete everyone on the planet (empires built on the back of slaves for example were very competitive) but is that really the kind of society we want for ourselves?
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    Trump - "if they aren't criminals and have lived here for a long time, they should be fast tracked."

    Trudeau - "I believe that terrorist sympathisers should not be prevented from working security at Canadian airports."
    Link? Yeah didn't think you actually have anything to back up what you claim Trudeau said. At least you are a consistant liar.
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    .... that picture should worry anyone that has to live with what that vegan soyboy feminist cuckold has to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    We have using tariffs since our country was founded What actually caused the catastrophy was NAFTA and the china trade agreements which desecrated our manufacturing sector and nearly wiped out the middle class in this country.
    Oh yeah, the US has a HUGE trade deficit with Canada. NOT.

    In the whole scheme of things I don't think it will have much affect on the US one way or the other except for purposes of speeding up the ditching of the US dollar to Bitcoins as the world Currency. I personnally don't like Bitcoin but I do see both China and Russia making HUGE investments in it and with the USA pissing in flower pots with these tarriffs they are just speeding things up in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkman View Post
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    I thought his dad and he and his brothers were all black belts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Oh yeah, the US has a HUGE trade deficit with Canada. NOT.
    I didn't say the US has a huge trade deficit with Canada.

    If you are going to quote and refute my comment - please make your response dispute something that I actually said. I think that's a reasonable request.

    According to my information we have an 18 billion dollar trade deficit with Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Considering most of Canada's exports go to the United States a trade war with us would not be in their interests. But if they want to decimate their economy over a steel tariff then that's their business.

    Unlike some other countries - I'm not going to presume to tell other nations what their trade policies should be. Because I find the arrogance of these countries who think they can dictate to us what we can or can't tariff is pretty off-putting so I'm not about to replicate that.
    Interesting reaction.... but rather emotional..... When someone dislikes what others express and when he is unable to give a real reply to a point raised which probably even for him makes sens, it is much easier to find his contradictor arrogant than to be able to argue. What you seem to ignore are the interaction in world trade and no one even the US is really in a position to pull the blanket to his exclusive own benefit without unpleasant consequences. Globalization is on the march since long and the US are not in a position to follow a lonely way without destabilizing their own economy. The best way for the US to react would be to be more export minded, which is not the case. US exporters often believe that it is good enough to offer what they sell on their national market without adjusting to the the specific needs or desires of others what most other countries do. And it is not a question of higher production costs in the US compared to many Western European countries or Japan.
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